Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > Long Guns > General Rifle Discussion > Ar-15 question

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-24-2012, 08:28 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 44
Default Ar-15 question

Hello...as you can tell from my user I am a noob when it comes to the ar-15 platform. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. What is best " clean" ammo as I hear it is a dirty platform? Is 223 rem better than 5.56 NATO? Sorry if this is mundane but look to you guys for some guidance. Thanks.

__________________
ar15noob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 02-24-2012, 08:42 PM   #2
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 17,191
Liked 5316 Times on 2775 Posts
Likes Given: 335

Default

its no dirtier than any other centerfire. just depends on what parts you prefer spending more time cleaning. some people think that because the ar15 gas tube ejects gas into the receiver area its bad or worse than other designs. its not its just different. instead of having to grind the crud off a gas piston and oprod you get to clean the bolt and receiver area. still gotta clean the same amount of crud just different areas.

556 and 223 differences can be confusing. do not fire 556 out of a barrel marked 223. you can fire 223 out of a 556. reason being is some but not all 556 can have thicker case walls increasing the pressure curve to dangerous levels in a 223 chamber.

__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...

JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 44
Default

Thanks jonm. Much appreciated. Any particular "brand" of 223 or 556 you think is best. My locals suck and are not nice to noobs like me. Sad but true and I find myself having to go to forums for ANY help.

__________________
ar15noob is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 11:03 PM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
purehavoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Not where I wanna be
Posts: 4,719
Liked 1120 Times on 727 Posts
Likes Given: 1995

Default

For brands get a box of 3-4 different brands and see what runs thru it and what doesn't , if ur paying much more than $6.99 a box of 20 its to much . Also be sure to try steel case ammo and see if it will run . U shouldn't be paying much more than .$5.50 for a box of 20 on it either , I buy it ay Walmart if I'm in there for less than $5 a box

__________________
purehavoc is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2012, 11:18 PM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
mjkeat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Wichita,Kansas
Posts: 4,026
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Picked up some Wolf from Aimsurplus for roughly $3.75 per 20 2 or so weeks ago. Hoping to finish up the first half case this weekend. VA Edu Ben check hasn't arrived yet so shooting has been putt on the back burner for a couple weeks.

__________________

“The bitterness of poor quality Lingers long after The sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
-John Ruskin

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quentin View Post
"The biggest issue with assembling an AR isn't so much getting the parts together right - it's getting the right parts together."
mjkeat is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 02:57 AM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
sniper762's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: creedmoor, nc,nc
Posts: 644
Liked 85 Times on 65 Posts

Default

Wolf is the most fouling ammo you can purchase

__________________
sniper762 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 05:36 AM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
smoooth308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 237
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

All I can say is like one of the other responses. DO NOT SHOOT 5.56 rounds out of a rifle that is designed for .223. military grade 5.56 rounds are a higher pressure round, where as the .223 is lower pressure. Even though they are the same round, they are completely different. An AR-15 designed to shoot 5.56 can shoot .223 all day, but if you shoot 5.56 through a rifle designed to shoot .223 your gonna have some major problems that can end up severely hurting or even killing you.

But now that we have that covered, my AR-15 is one of my favorite firearms to shoot. Accurate, little recoil, and with all the aftermarket parts it's pretty much up too you on how you want it set up.

Mine is chambered in 5.56 and if you start by making sure yours is as well, you will have no major problems. Mine is spikes tactical model and has worked like a charm since I got it. No FTF or FTE since I've purchased it and I've put almost 1500 rounds through it.

Good luck bud and please post any more questions you might have...

__________________
smoooth308 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 05:38 AM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
smoooth308's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 237
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Btw I shoot xm193 through mine. It's the same ammo they send to our troops over seas. And is meant to last through the harshest conditions

__________________
smoooth308 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:08 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
treehugger49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Newnan,Georgia
Posts: 421
Liked 42 Times on 36 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Be advised that if you choose to shoot steel cased ammo, it may void your manufacturer's warranty.

I'm not a high volume shooter, and, for the price difference, prefer to shoot brass-cased ammo.

The M-193/M-855 military offerings are not as accurate as some factory loads as well, if that is a consideration for you.

__________________

XD-40 service, XD-9sc, member GeorgiaCarry.Org, National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America, North American Hunting Club, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation

treehugger49 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 12:22 PM   #10
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JonM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Rochester WI,Rochester WI
Posts: 17,191
Liked 5316 Times on 2775 Posts
Likes Given: 335

Default

In a properly put together and functional ar15 with a chromed chamber steel cased ammo will work fine. Just remember steel cased ammo is very inconsistant in charge weights and bullet weights. Steel doesnt expand to seal the chamber as well as brass does and there is some blowback into the bolt area. This can cause fouling issues in extreme cases.

Accuracy is dependent on the consistancy of the rounds and the individual rifle. The only way to know what works best accuracy and reliability wise is to buy small ammounts of whatever brand and get after it.

In general its wise to start with a brand that is known to deliver the performance you want. I cant recomend a specific brand because i havent shot factory ammo in my ar15 rifles since the early 90's. I can make cheaper more accurate reloads than whats on the shelf.

__________________

"Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound." — L. Neil Smith

The problem with being stupid is you cannot simply decide to stop doing dumb things...


Last edited by JonM; 02-29-2012 at 12:25 PM.
JonM is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
.243 win load question and powder question Mantids88 Ammunition & Reloading 8 10-16-2010 11:55 PM