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Old 06-06-2013, 05:39 AM   #21
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I would check the head space. If it is good to go then work on the bore. Get a fire lap kit or fire lap bullets from Brownells. These old bores can be greatly improved. Check the bore dimension determine if it is an "S" or "J" bore. Regardless of what it is supposed to be check it out.
Havent heard of those... Ill definitely check it out.... I was thinking of slugging the barrel to get an accurate measurement...
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Heres a closer look at the bolt before and after
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I think the J (I) and S bullet's ogives were different, not the bore (though they may have been stated differently at different times. But the spitzer-throated gun was indeed different.
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I would check the head space. If it is good to go then work on the bore. Get a fire lap kit or fire lap bullets from Brownells. These old bores can be greatly improved. Check the bore dimension determine if it is an "S" or "J" bore. Regardless of what it is supposed to be check it out.
OK, You better check your rifles also, every one of them. The GEW 98 is .323, not .318.

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Aww, my Mosin had a bore worse than that and hit beer cans at 100 yards. It's the luck of the draw.

Have it checked by a Smith to make sure it's safe, then put it through it's paces before you decide to buy a new barrel.

You do have a great foundation to build a custom rifle on.
I would shoot it also.

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I think the J (I) and S bullet's ogives were different, not the bore (though they may have been stated differently at different times. But the spitzer-throated gun was indeed different.
The 1888 commision rifle had a .318 bore, '98 Military actions have a .323 bore. There were quite a few commercail Mausers post '98 made w/ a .318 bore, but it died w/ the Military '98 which is what this rifle is.
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I think the J (I) and S bullet's ogives were different, not the bore (though they may have been stated differently at different times. But the spitzer-throated gun was indeed different.
The S bore is .318, the J bore is .323
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OK, You better check your rifles also, every one of them. The GEW 98 is .323, not .318.



I would shoot it also.



He is not the guy to listen too. Trust me on this.



The 1888 commision rifle had a .318 bore, '98 Military actions have a .323 bore. There were quite a few commercail Mausers post '98 made w/ a .318 bore, but it died w/ the Military '98 which is what this rifle is.
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The S bore is .318, the J bore is .323
yes they had two different bore sizes as mentioned the S bore at .318 and the J bore at .323 which is the one most reloading manuals list loads for. can't even remember seeing any .318 bullets or loads listed.
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Sweeeeet!... All this mauser talk is great!.... Im learning a lot... Thanks to u all..... Keep it going!
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yes they had two different bore sizes as mentioned the S bore at .318 and the J bore at .323 which is the one most reloading manuals list loads for. can't even remember seeing any .318 bullets or loads listed.
There is different data for .318 I, J is what we Americans took a fancy I for. Cartridges of the world has both listed. The I is for Infantry. The two terms are interchangable in the U.S. with Mauser snobs!

The later cartridge used the IS or S bullet, .323 Infantry Spitzer. You have them backwards. They took a .318 bullet and slapped a jacket on it.
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There is different data for .318 I, J is what we Americans took a fancy I for. Cartridges of the world has both listed. The I is for Infantry. The two terms are interchangable in the U.S. with Mauser snobs!

The later cartridge used the IS or S bullet, .323 Infantry Spitzer. You have them backwards. They took a .318 bullet and slapped a jacket on it.
correct. i had them reversed! went back and checked my Nosler load manual and it shows the the J bore at .318 and the JS bore at .323. none of my load manuals even have any data for the J bore 8mm Mauser.
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correct. i had them reversed! went back and checked my Nosler load manual and it shows the the J bore at .318 and the JS bore at .323. none of my load manuals even have any data for the J bore 8mm Mauser.
Dang, I was wrong!
I just recalled it by memory.
Knew I should've checked it.
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