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hq357 09-02-2013 08:10 PM

Hello everyone. :) recently i was at a Walmart and saw these air rifles made by gamo, they shoot pellets and are powered by air. one is a .177 caliber pellet, and it shoots at about 1,200 feet per second. the other one was a 22 caliber pellet but it fires at 900 fps. im buying one since 22 lr is hard to find in my area. but im not sure which one i should buy Does anyone here know about air rifles? Should i get a .177 caliber or the 22? Wich is best for rabbit hunting at 50 yards or more? The .177 is lighter and faster the .22 is heavier and slower.

mountainman13 09-02-2013 08:16 PM

The velocities stated tend to be based on a specific (expensive) pellet.
For hunting the .22 is much better.
Walmart tends to be very over priced on these items. I sold many of them for half the price. Ordering directly from the company is a much better way to go usually.
You may want to do some more research into your options. Benjamin would be a company to look into and a used gun may be the best way to go.
They make air rifles that are much bigger in both caliber and power.
If you get into a serious setup you can go deer hunting with an air rifle.

Hawg 09-02-2013 08:18 PM

The 1200 FPS is only gained with platinum pellets. If was me I'd go with the .22, For the best price go to Amazon.

I'd rather have a Benjamin also.

longunner 09-02-2013 08:44 PM

I have a ruger pellet gun that I bought from Walmart. I took a few squirrels with it but it wasn't very accurate after about 30 yards. I would say get a 22 instead if you're planning on hunting with it.

phideaux 09-02-2013 08:45 PM

I enjoy mine . In three weeks, this spring I killed 10 rabbits, 8 with the .177 ca; and 2 with the .22 cal. All one shot kills.
Longest kill was 49 yds. The .22 is a much more humane kill than the .177.
The .177 cal 7.3 gr lead pellets chrony at around 985 FPS.(not 1200)
The .22 cal 14.5 gr lead pellets chrony around 1000 FPS, out of the bottom rifle ,which is rated at 1200 fps ,its a magnum.

The top Rifle is a Hatsan Model 86 Sniper 177 cal.
The Pistol is a Ruger Mark1 .177 cal.
The BottomRifle is a Ruger Magnum .22 cal.

The rifles will shoot 3/4" groups at 30 yds and 1 1/2 groups at 50 yrds.
The pistol (after extensive trigger work) will shoot 1 " groups at 15 yrds.

Both Rifles will shoot thru 1 " boards at 20 yrds.
There are dozens of different weights and types of pellets and every gun has ONE that it likes best, you got to find that ONE.

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Cheap shooting

http://www.pyramydair.com/

Jim

DeltaF 09-02-2013 08:49 PM

Having hunted and killed rabbits, squirrels and coons with both (and the occasional possum/dog spreading trash all over the yard) .22 is better if you can get one in the 1000fps or above range. 900 will do the job too but depending on distance and brush you may not get enough penetration on the "larger" (by comparison to a squirrel) animals. Either is better than .177, but the .177 will do the job with the right pellets and shot placement.

phideaux 09-02-2013 09:00 PM

I shoot many different pellet types and weights ,and some of the heavier .22 cal pellets, 18.5 gr, 21 gr 26 gr and even 31 gr . Most of those pellets chrony from 800 fps to 670 fps, out of a Magnum Rifle rated at 1200 fps .22 cal (not a standard rifle rated at 900 fps).

Believe me , they will stop a rabbit instantly, at 50 yards, whereas a .177 cal pellet at 7.3 gr will not , it will kill him, but it takes 5 minutes of flopping around,
Using a 10.5 gr .177 cal pellet is better, but still not as humane as .22 cal.

Wa;mart is usually higher priced on these guns, I like Pyramid Air or Airgun Depot.

Jim

mountainman13 09-02-2013 09:23 PM

If you can afford it this is the pinnacle of air rifles.
Mould your own bullets and take down just about whatever you want.
I highly recommend an air tank setup and a pump backup.

mountainman13 09-02-2013 09:25 PM

Forgot the link. Lol
http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/outlaws.html

hq357 09-03-2013 03:04 AM

Very cool the most ill spend on an air rifle is about 200$ any recommendations? I have an old tv i want too shoot just to but i cant plink with 22 lr so ill use an air rifle to test out the damage. which would be more capable of breaking the tvs thick glass? .177 or the 22? I want the animal to go down quickly and as humane as possible i hate to see things suffer.


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