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Old 02-23-2009, 09:29 PM   #11
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Im going to look for a range to rent a rifle and shoot some. Im just nervous because i dont know the gunshop and range edict you know?

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Just follow good firearms safety, be polite, and ask questions if you don't know. Most people you will find at a range will be like us, and are more than willing to help.

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Old 02-23-2009, 11:42 PM   #13
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After searching for a few hours, this seems like the best place i cant find.

JD Defense Home Page

Searching for ranges on google is a pain in the ass. Even the range search engines im not sure about. I think im gunna call this palce tomorrow and ask about rifle lessons

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Magnum Research Magnum Lite rifle. If it is good enough for Israeli snipers it should be good enough for home defense. It shoots a cheep round so you will not break the bank buying ammo and you will not have to worry about over penetration with the .22LR. You can also get high capacity mags and it is lighter and easier to handle than the Mini 14.

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The 22LR, 17HMR, and 22WMR is for hunting squirrels and terminating burrowing mammals. NOT for protecting you and your loved ones. Don't get anything less than a 40 caliber handgun.

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Old 02-24-2009, 02:27 AM   #16
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yeah I dont know about using a 22. I want something with more stopping power then that. Ive seen crooks that look like they take .22 shots for breakfast. I know, I know, ive heard "They bounce around in your skull" but ehhh.

Butttt i will be living in an apartment i can bet the walls are thin..

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Before this thread dies and just for the heck of it heres the wanted posted my cousin/manager of fam business made up from the 3rd home invasion we had. This was taken from the security cameras at my house. They didnt get all the way in this time, but they did beat my 62 year old father over the head with that POS pistol in his right hand sending him to get 8 stiches. I dont live at the house, and my father was there on vacation. I cant view the video from my current house, but they can from the store.

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One firearm you may want to consider is the Kel-Tec Sub 2000. It is a small, foldable pistol caliber (9mm *yawn* or .40 S&W) carbine. Won't over penetrate walls the way a rifle would, faster to reload than a shotgun, and is smaller and more manuverable than most rifles/shotguns. And as an added bonus, when you are old enough to get a pistol you can get your Sub 2000 setup for most populas handgun magazines. Glock, S&W 58, Sig, Ruger, etc...

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"Butttt i will be living in an apartment i can bet the walls are thin.."

Exactly!!!! I have lived in some apartments where the walls are paper thin. The last thing you need in life is to take a shot at an intruder, miss, have it go through the wall and strike your neighbor's new born. I guarantee the judge will not care that you were aiming for an intruder and you will spend the rest of your life in a jail cell.

If you were living in a house i would suggest something more powerful than a 22 but in an apartment building you really have to be careful.

99.9% of intruders wont care if you are shooting 22 bullets or 12.7mm bullets at them. At the sound of the first shot they are gone!

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Old 02-26-2009, 03:01 AM   #20
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Thank you all for your advice, Ive been looking into .22's specifically the ruger 10/22. Maybe with a folding stock something like this

Butler Creek Stainless Steel Folding Stock for Ruger 10/22

but i read a review that said it wasnt a perfect fit for their ruger 10/22. That makes me a little nervous.

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