I just ordered a premium select grade 8mm mauser from Mitchell's Mausers with ammo. Didn't realize it at the time, but I got screwed on the ammo. It is cheaper at AIM Surplus Home ($13.50 for a box of 20), which is the cheapest 8mm non-corrossive ammo I have been able to find. I personally like the 8mm, but only because I like the historic value of rifles from WWII. I just hope the rifle looks as good as the salesman said it did.