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Winchester94 04-25-2014 04:50 PM

8mm Mauser vs .308 Winchester
 
Just out of curiosity, how do they compare in ballistics?

wittmeba 04-25-2014 06:48 PM

.308 Winchester (7.62X51)
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
150 gr (10 g) Nosler tip 2,820 ft/s (860 m/s) 2,648 ft·lbf (3,590 J)
165 gr (11 g) BTSP 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s) 2,671 ft·lbf (3,621 J)
168 gr (11 g) BTHP 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s) 2,630 ft·lbf (3,570 J)
175 gr (11 g) BTHP 2,645 ft/s (806 m/s) 2,720 ft·lbf (3,690 J)
Test barrel length: 24 in


8MM Mauser (7.92X57)
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
11.7 g (181 gr) RWS DK 820 m/s (2,700 ft/s) 3,934 J (2,902 ft·lbf)
12.1 g (187 gr) RWS HMK 820 m/s (2,700 ft/s) 4,068 J (3,000 ft·lbf)
12.7 g (196 gr) RWS TMR 800 m/s (2,600 ft/s) 4,064 J (2,997 ft·lbf)
12.8 g (198 gr) RWS ID Classic 800 m/s (2,600 ft/s) 4,096 J (3,021 ft·lbf)
Test barrel length: 600 mm (23.62 in)
Source(s): RWS / RUAG Ammotech [1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92%C3%9757mm_Mauser

Winchester94 04-25-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wittmeba (Post 1565668)
.308 Winchester (7.62X51)
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
150 gr (10 g) Nosler tip 2,820 ft/s (860 m/s) 2,648 ft·lbf (3,590 J)
165 gr (11 g) BTSP 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s) 2,671 ft·lbf (3,621 J)
168 gr (11 g) BTHP 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s) 2,630 ft·lbf (3,570 J)
175 gr (11 g) BTHP 2,645 ft/s (806 m/s) 2,720 ft·lbf (3,690 J)
Test barrel length: 24 in


8MM Mauser (7.92X57)
Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
11.7 g (181 gr) RWS DK 820 m/s (2,700 ft/s) 3,934 J (2,902 ft·lbf)
12.1 g (187 gr) RWS HMK 820 m/s (2,700 ft/s) 4,068 J (3,000 ft·lbf)
12.7 g (196 gr) RWS TMR 800 m/s (2,600 ft/s) 4,064 J (2,997 ft·lbf)
12.8 g (198 gr) RWS ID Classic 800 m/s (2,600 ft/s) 4,096 J (3,021 ft·lbf)
Test barrel length: 600 mm (23.62 in)
Source(s): RWS / RUAG Ammotech [1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92%C3%9757mm_Mauser

Thanks for the info! Would you say it'd be fine for whitetail?

nchunt101 04-25-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winchester94 (Post 1565677)
Thanks for the info! Would you say it'd be fine for whitetail?

Both are great whitetail rounds.

wittmeba 04-25-2014 07:09 PM

Certainly.

Winchester94 04-25-2014 08:17 PM

I love military surplus rifles and was just curious how it compared.

Winchester94 04-25-2014 08:21 PM

I should add that my lgs has a good deal on a Czech large ring Mauser.

303tom 04-26-2014 02:45 AM

They are both great White-tail rounds & only the availability makes the .308 a better round !..............

Shoobee 04-26-2014 03:04 AM

The 8mm Mauser was a German hunting gun adapted to warfare.

It compares similarly with the 30-06 Springfield, although slightly less powerful than the 06. But more powerful than the 308.

All 3 of them ('06, Mauser, and 308) are essentially big game hunting guns.

The Germans realized first that these calibers were essentially too big for practical infantry warfare. Great for snipers, not good for foot soldiers.

Thus the carbine era was then born with the StG, AK and M-1 Carbine.

These ultimately evolved into the AK-74 and the AR's.

So it all depends on your quary.

If you are hunting or defending-against men, then the AK-74 or the various American 5.56's are better.

If you are hunting deer, then the 308's or Mauser's are better.

Winchester94 04-26-2014 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 303tom (Post 1565877)
They are both great White-tail rounds & only the availability makes the .308 a better round !..............

I've already got a .308 and don't have a milsurp rifle yet so I'm think of getting the 8mm.


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