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Old 02-06-2012, 10:50 PM   #11
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Check out bestofthewest.com or longrangepursuit.com. I'd throw a link in, but i don't know how from an iPhone. These guys have 7mm rem mags taking elk at 900+ yards. They use Berger 168 gr VLD (Very Low Drag) bullets. It's like these other guys said, if you throw a small rock it goes really fast, but not very far. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. You have to find the right balance of weight and aerodynamics. Look up bergerbullets.com. They have some cool videos that explain it better than I can. They show how a 7mm with a 168 Berger has more energy down range than a 30-378 weatherby with a Barnes. Seriously, before anybody argues with me, watch the video and get out your calculators and figure it out for yourself. My $0.02

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Check out bestofthewest.com or longrangepursuit.com. I'd throw a link in, but i don't know how from an iPhone. These guys have 7mm rem mags taking elk at 900+ yards. They use Berger 168 gr VLD (Very Low Drag) bullets. It's like these other guys said, if you throw a small rock it goes really fast, but not very far. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. You have to find the right balance of weight and aerodynamics. Look up bergerbullets.com. They have some cool videos that explain it better than I can. They show how a 7mm with a 168 Berger has more energy down range than a 30-378 weatherby with a Barnes. Seriously, before anybody argues with me, watch the video and get out your calculators and figure it out for yourself. My $0.02
I was just sayin what works for me.

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6.5 creedmore, 7.82 warbird, 338 luapa, 7mm ultra mag comes to mind

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personally I like the 338 luapa and the 6.5 creed, reasonable to shoot compared to a 50 bmg and they will get you out there where you want to be and dont skip on the glass , high quality glass and big power isnt cheap either
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Ok ya that makes sense. Does anyone know how hot you can load a 162 gr. Round before it becomes inefficent?

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Ok ya that makes sense. Does anyone know how hot you can load a 162 gr. Round before it becomes inefficent?
Its not so much that as how hot can you load the brass capabilities and how hot the gun can stand.

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personally I like the 338 luapa and the 6.5 creed, reasonable to shoot compared to a 50 bmg and they will get you out there where you want to be and dont skip on the glass , high quality glass and big power isnt cheap either
7.82 is a great long range round if you reload and get the brass.

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I was just sayin what works for me.

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Sorry man, wasn't going after anyone, it's a hotly contested issue around the guys I run with, guess i just assumed it would be here too. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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Sorry man, wasn't going after anyone, it's a hotly contested issue around the guys I run with, guess i just assumed it would be here too. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
Oh it is w the guys i run w also but most of them have come to respect my knowledge and ammo recipes. But i also know im nowhere near the best at it and that MY loads for MY specific rifles dont work as well for others.

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Would also mention- at THAT range, your ability to "read the wind" becomes critical. A 10 MPH wind will move a bullet about 10-12 feet laterally. Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind.

Ballistic coefficent is a mix of streamlining, density of the cross section, etc yada yada. Bottom line is how much OOOMPH it still has when it gets there. You will also find that HOTTEST is rarely the most ACCURATE load.

Think about it for a minute- you have a 28 gram steel ball bearing. I have a 28 gram dart. want to try for 100 ft?

And consider- a paper target holds fairly still. However, a man/moose walking at a brisk walk will move about 13-16 ft in the time your bullet is in flight.

Bullet drop is such that it will exceed to range of adjustment on a lot of scopes. There are scope bases that are made for extreme long range- they are higher at the front end. Or you could try aiming in the air about 28 feet above the target (yeah, does not work really well)

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Hey C3, Aren't Bases for long range higher in the rear as to give better muzzle elevation to scope alignment?

Ropin, I here you. I can relate as I shoot a 7mm Rem Mag. I love the light recoil w/ Barnes 160gr tsx @ 3000fps-. At 500 yards it has over 1600fpe, more then enough for anything that walks in the lower 48.

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