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Old 11-27-2011, 07:48 AM   #21
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I've looked at the ballistics, and what I can tell you only really applies to the velocity and trajectory with comparable bullet weights.

At less than 400 yards, the .30-06 has a flatter trajectory and higher velocity, generally speaking with comparable bullet weights and such.
Beyond 400, the .30-06 begins to lose velocity and experience bullet drop much faster than the 7.62X54r because of the latter's much better BC.
At 400 yards is also where the 7.62X54r begins to outshine the .30-06 in velocity and trajectory. At that distance the r actually has a higher velocity and flatter trajectory, and maintains such for a longer distance. At 1k yards, the drop for the .30-06 is something like around 33 feet, while the drop for the other is around 26 feet. At that distance the 7.62X54r also hits with quite a bit more force, exact number not recalled at the moment.
good information there trip. i thought that they were similar. but according to your information the 30-06 has the edge up to around 400 yrds, and after that the 7.62x54r has the edge. good info there, thanks.
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I've got both, the 91/30 is fun,

but the M44 is just cuddly and

lovable, sort of like a carbine

version of a teddy bear.

Hilarious muzzle blast.

Gets insane attention at the range, too.

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I've got both, the 91/30 is fun,

but the M44 is just cuddly and

lovable, sort of like a carbine

version of a teddy bear.

Hilarious muzzle blast.

Gets insane attention at the range, too.
Which is more accurate
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Which is more accurate
Depends on your luck. Like said the 91/30 should be more accurate, but most of them have been to hell and back. Still, more of the long range milsurp guys that shoot mosins use the 91/30. The average 91/30 and M44 off the pawn shop shelf should be pretty close to equal at 200 or less. Individual mileage will vary.
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If a high degree of accuracy is needed, personally, I would start

mowing my way through a bunch of 91/30s till you find one

which shoots well for you.

IME the M44 is accurate for a carbine, but it is

a carbine...

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If a high degree of accuracy is needed, personally, I would start

mowing my way through a bunch of 91/30s till you find one

which shoots well for you.

IME the M44 is accurate for a carbine, but it is

a carbine...
Is there a way of finding an accurate 91 30 while only buying one
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I think you need to check out 7.62x54r.net It is a pretty extensive site with info and even some Mosin Nagant humor.

You may find more info on picking one out.
Really though, I think that the best you can do is just avoid any obvious damage.
I'm sorry, but the best way to get guaranteed accuracy out of a rifle is to buy a new one that the manufacturer actually gives a guaranty on the accuracy. Weatherby Vanguard comes to mind, and I think Savage may guaranty the accuracy on some of their models.
When buying milsurp, it's a good idea to carry a rabbit's foot with you, as there just really are no promises. I'm sorry. If it helps though, at least the MN is cheap, and there are some things to do that will help the accuracy of them, some are even covered in this forum.

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I'm just goin to buy a 1942 91/30 at big 5 for $100 then get the sporter package

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Go for it.

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You could have one "bedded" by a gunsmith, but it would cost

you more than the purchase price of the gun.

Undamaged factory snipers are the best, because their

barrels were hand-selected in the manufacturing process for

the sniper attachments because of their optimum barrel

harmonics, or "whip". But they cost considerably more.

If you can find one which was selected for the sniper program,

and drilled for the scope, but never got a turned-down bolt

or scope, that would be best, but apparently there aren't any

factory records to indicate which ones are which.

In 91-30s, a pre-war(WWII) rifle with a "hex" chamber

is supposed to be more accurate than the ones with a round

chamber made during the war. They usually cost a little more,

but are supposedly worth it.

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