[losack]

7.62x 51 is the .308

[jpattersonnh]

OK, If you check out reloading data 7.62x54r and .30-06 are very similar up to 205gr bullets. The .30-06 has 220gr, but that does not mean it will shoot it well.
Being a realist, not a flag waiver in this case is something to consider. W/ 8x57 and .30-06 the .30-06 has the advantage untill you hit bullets that are 195gr and above. So how can a cartridge, identical in every respect that is 6mm shorter out perform the longer cartridge? No more, BS. Tell me why and prove it. Put facts that you can back up on here. 180gr military ammo has a 2700fps MV in 7.62x54r, the .30-06 w/ M2 ball has a 2700fps w/ 150gr., please explain.

Even these morons read the specs. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM674-1.html

You guys that reload for the M1 Garand, please don't answer. I know the answer. The best the .30-06 can do is a 175gr at 2700fps. We are splitting hairs here, but WTH.
This is the same type of arguement some moron was trying to say before. The 91/30 is a peice of junk. I asked him to stand 400 yards infront of the muzzle and tell me afterwards how inaccurate it is.

[teenagegunnut]

sorry typing mistake.

[Ima-Savage]

yiiiiiip! I'd prefer the .30-06 but they are both fun. The MN has the scope mount cost 'thing' anyways. If you can afford to mount a good scope on your MN it will do fine.

[JonM]

The real and only advantage 30-06 has over the x54r is the rimless case of the 30-06.

[Ima-Savage]

JPattersonnh, on that note- I actually DID make 2 'potshots' at 400yrds, and it hit 1- 1 and 1/2 ft. lower than my aim. I was surprised but i can't see well with my ageing eyes. I don't have a scope for the MN yet but will soon. It is a cheap way to learn good lessons on the way!
I have a MN 91/30 and an M44 style. It is pretty clear that the .30-06 has more load ability than most other military loadings from that era, AND, I agree that the 7.92x57 is a real beast- with a scope!