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hay 12-10-2008 01:10 PM

7.62x39 vs. 22-250
 
i know the 7.62 cartridge is larger than the 22-250, but, how would that affect the price of a rifle? i saw a rifle chambered for 7.62 x 39 selling for $219 and the exact same model of the rifle chambered for 22-250 selling for $269. i asked the salesperson why the difference and they could not tell me. is the 7.62 an odd caliber or some other reason why it would be cheaper? both rifles were the exact same make and model and brand new. any problems getting ammo for the 7.62? is it going to be taken off the market because of it's 'assault rifle ammo status' and thus sellers are trying to dump them fast? sorta confused about this one. i had heard the 7.62 was a fairly good caliber for most any north american game.

robocop10mm 12-10-2008 01:49 PM

.22-250 is a very fast and accurate varmint cartridge. I would imagine a maker would spend a bit more time setting up a .22-250 than a 7.62 X 39. The barrel would be a bit pricier to be more accurate. Pressures on the 250 are higher also.

bgeddes 12-10-2008 08:21 PM

7.62x39 is dirt cheap and all over the place. One would think the .22-250 will be more accurate, especially because the cheap 7.62 ammo isn't so consistant.

What model of rifle were you looking at? $219 for a rifle in 7.62x39 sounds great.

hay 12-11-2008 02:32 PM

to bgeddes, i was looking at a NEF handi rifle at a local pawn shop. the 22-250 was $269 and the 7.62 x 39 was $219. no explanation for the difference in price for the exact same rifle (both brand new) in different calibers. seems odd to me, but that what it was. i really liked the 22-250, but i am really just looking right now and have to convince my better half that it is needed. ha ha.

robocop10mm 12-11-2008 03:13 PM

Depending on what your intended purpose for the rifle is.

Varmint or other small game hunting - .22-250

Medium game hunting or SHTF back up - 7.62 X 39

The .22-250 may be more difficult to feed as that caliber's popularity is waning a bit. It has a bit of a reputation for eroding throats. Not as bad as the .220 swift and maybe not bad enough that a single shot will ever give you any trouble.

Personally, for a rifle in that use range, I would get a .223. Ammo easier to find and quite resonable for vermin at up to about 200 yards.

The .22-250 will give you useful velocity to 300+ yards but I might question the long range accuracy of a sub $300 rifle.

The X39 will always be easier to feed than the 250 but finding accurate ammo will be more difficult. Handloading will wring the most out of it.

greenjeans 12-11-2008 11:34 PM

The Handi in 7.62 is not meant for military surplus ammo. The manual says don't use it. The 7.62 in the Handi wasn't built very long because it wasn't built for the mil. surplus stuff. Good caliber in the military surplus rifles.

jeepcreep927 12-12-2008 01:15 AM

The Handi Rifles, despite their lower price tag, can be made pretty darn accurate. The only complaints I have seen are some rough triggers.

The bad rap the 220 Swift and 22-250 received as barrel burners was just that, a bad rap. Of course a bullet at 3700+ fps. is going to cause more erosion than one at 2700 fps., but with better steel and cooler burning powders of today, it's really no longer an issue. Remember, these cartidges got the bad rap in the 1940's when they were still wildcats, and it stuck. Now if you rip off 100 rounds as fast as you can you're going to have problems but sensible shooting should make the barrel last longer than you do.

Ram Rod 12-12-2008 04:05 PM

Can't really compare these two cartridges in any way. As far as cost in a rifle, the 22-250 would generally be more expensive because of the high power of that cartridge, and the actions and barrels being beffier in construction. More metal!

robocop10mm 12-14-2008 12:27 AM

Unless you are gong to shoot benchrest competition, you will never shoot enough to burn out a barrel.

stalkingbear 12-14-2008 11:25 PM

The BORE diameter of .308 of which all .30 sporting rifles are included such as .308,30-06,.300 win mag,and many more is what is good for all north american game. The 7.62x39 is actually slightly lower in actual power than a 30-30-at least at short range. By the time the spitser bullet shot out of the 7.62x39 passes up the 30-30 in energy,the range is too long for a SPORTING shot at GAME anyway. Note-com-bloc 7.62x39 bores (groove diameter) in SKS and various AKs are .311-.312 same as the diameter of the com-bloc bullets/ammo,whereas american rifles (groove diameter) /bullets/ammo is actually .308. The reason h&r or nef don't reccomend com-bloc ammo to be shot in their rifles is because of this. Also-note that in all steel cased ammo, the case is covered with lacquer coating to keep it from rusting,when fired in rifles very rapidly with hot barrels/chambers this coating melts-thus eventually building up in chamber enough to cause problems. Obviously,one cannot shoot a single shot rifle rapidly enough for this problem to surface.





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Originally Posted by hay (Post 54976)
i know the 7.62 cartridge is larger than the 22-250, but, how would that affect the price of a rifle? i saw a rifle chambered for 7.62 x 39 selling for $219 and the exact same model of the rifle chambered for 22-250 selling for $269. i asked the salesperson why the difference and they could not tell me. is the 7.62 an odd caliber or some other reason why it would be cheaper? both rifles were the exact same make and model and brand new. any problems getting ammo for the 7.62? is it going to be taken off the market because of it's 'assault rifle ammo status' and thus sellers are trying to dump them fast? sorta confused about this one. i had heard the 7.62 was a fairly good caliber for most any north american game.



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