[JTJ]

Most of the available bullets are in the 123 grn range. hp, sp and bt. There are some 150 gr sp available too. In loaded rounds there are the same choices. Wolf and Bear load hp and sp. Hornady loads some bt along with sp. No it isn't the same as 308 as the 308 is the American standard. That does not mean there aren't suitable bullets and loaded ammo available. Just not as much choice. On the plus side you can buy 7.62x39 hunting ammo for $5-$7 a box of 20.

[JonM]

if your looking for a softer shooting 30cal just download a 308 or 30-06. 308 has little recoil in a bolt gun to begin with so if you use a minimum charge and light bullets its prolly right in the same range as a 7.62x39.

when your looking at data for the x54r remember that the rooskies load it light to prevent damage to their pkm recievers. while reliable the pkm is not a very robust design and under full power x54r loads they pretty much disassemble themselves in short order. so the russian military surplus is downloaded to about 308 levels or less.

[orangello]

Originally Posted by JonM

when your looking at data for the x54r remember that the rooskies load it light to prevent damage to their pkm recievers. while reliable the pkm is not a very robust design and under full power x54r loads they pretty much disassemble themselves in short order. so the russian military surplus is downloaded to about 308 levels or less.

Interesting! I wonder, is that why so many have complained that the soft-point hunting rounds kick like a mule compared to the sardine can stuff? Seems reasonable.

[Nathantc]

went out right at 4am and there was 40-50 hogs in a large group and i got one at 175 yards at night with a Streamlight TLR-1S and my red dot,,, hit her right in the heart and yes the bullet exited

ammo 122g Tula HP 7.62x39
rifle SAR-1

i now see im going to need to stock up on ammo,,, my hog troubles are much worse than i thought




tree @ 50 yards with light and red dot,,, to bad my only cam is a cell phone that hates night pix




Muzzle is pointed directly at the entry wound on the sow

[FrontierTCB]

I guess that answers the original question. lol Happy Huntin!

[Nathantc]

Originally Posted by FrontierTCB

I guess that answers the original question. lol Happy Huntin!

im quite impressed it put a HP threw the hog at 175 yards,,, never would have thought it would go all the way threw like that

[Crazycastor]

I would use a 7.62x39 to hunt with. They have alot of power going down range. I made up some swinging targets and the target area was made up of 3\8inch steel. The bullet went though that 3\8 inch steel like butter and the hole it made was big enough to put the whole bullet with brass through it without touching the sides. I really believe this round would make a perfect hog gun and have no doubt it would take down any deer in America. But in my opinion I wouldn't shoot anything past 250 yards. I don't know how fast this bullet drops or slows down after that range.

[Nathantc]

Originally Posted by Crazycastor

I would use a 7.62x39 to hunt with. They have alot of power going down range. I made up some swinging targets and the target area was made up of 3\8inch steel. The bullet went though that 3\8 inch steel like butter and the hole it made was big enough to put the whole bullet with brass through it without touching the sides. I really believe this round would make a perfect hog gun and have no doubt it would take down any deer in America. But in my opinion I wouldn't shoot anything past 250 yards. I don't know how fast this bullet drops or slows down after that range.

ill put it this way,, the ak is zeroed at 200 yards,, at the 270 yard mark i aimed as high as the spine and it hit about 5" low right in to the boiler room (heart)

its not a flat shooting round but for a guy like me that bust clays at 300 with a .22lr you get real good at redneck hold over lol

[locutus]

Just my personal choice, but NO WAY would i consider using a .30-30 or a 7.62X39 past 100 yards.

Both are capable rounds when used within their limitations.

My son killed his first elk with a .30-30. But the range was 30 yards.

[Nathantc]

Originally Posted by locutus

Just my personal choice, but NO WAY would i consider using a .30-30 or a 7.62X39 past 100 yards.

Both are capable rounds when used within their limitations.

My son killed his first elk with a .30-30. But the range was 30 yards.

you say that but this 7.62x39 over penetrated the hog at 175 yards and the hog dropped dead on the spot,, the time it took me to walk out there she wasn't even breathing or moving at all, the bullet passed all the way threw at about a 20* angle from just behind the front right shoulder and out about 9" back from the left shoulder.

dont know about you but thats impressed the hell out of me,, especially shooting hollow point ammo

i could have used my .270 for that shot but i already had my ak in my hands and i know from taking deer with an sks out to that distance and more that it would do the job if i do my part... that 7.62x39 gave the hog a good quick and clean death

im sure many many hogs and other large game are hunted with AK47 in south Africa by the people that live there

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i agree that within its limits,, sorta like me taking a deer last year at just over 800 yards with a Remington core lokt 150g .270win,, and it went from the deers upper chest and out the groin area just under the rear leg (deer was facing me) that was with a 24" barrel Remington 700 that i built chambered in .270win,,, not short mag or any other... rifle rounds do far more than what people give them credit for.

but even though the rear sight leaf says 1000 meters i sure as hell wouldn't have chanced wounding the deer with an ak at that distance