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Old 05-24-2013, 02:21 AM   #161
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Sure it is. I killed two last year with my mini-14. Just like your badmouthing the .243. My guess is you have never used either one to hunt with. You stick with metric crap and I will keep putting meat in the freezer with my .223, .243, and 30-06.
sorry, Bama, but i have to agree with JP. will the 223 kill deer? yes. but probably not the best choice for them. personally i find the 6mm/243 to be at the least i would use for deer size game.

and FYI, most calibers can be converted to metric.
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sorry, Bama, but i have to agree with JP. will the 223 kill deer? yes. but probably not the best choice for them. personally i find the 6mm/243 to be at the least i would use for deer size game.

and FYI, most calibers can be converted to metric.
thank you,, you worded it much kinder than i was going to
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like i said before, just because it can kill, doesn't mean its a good choice,, hell .22lr had kill lots of deer but its left more suffering and wounded than it has killed,, same for .223 which is why it like the lr has been outlawed in most states for use on whitetail

it not even reliable to kill people in one shot and we are softer than deer

one shot one kill is practical and that doesn't mean one shot dead days later

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FYI, most calibers can be converted to metric.


http://americanhunter.org/blogs/223-for-deer-hunting/

http://www.huntingclub.com/magazine/articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/13457/is-the-223-rem-deadly-for-deer
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looks like more internet nonsense being spread by a like minded person such as your self,, if one looks hard enough on the net they could justify there opionion what ever that my be

the net is very full of misinformation and i do not speak of what i have read but what i have done and seen time and time again,, .223 can kill a deer yes, just like .22lr can but its not reialible enought for a "clean & humane" kill, argue all you want and your still wrong like it or not,, this is not opionion this is fact.

i have even seen a deer dropped with a 9mm carbine, it can do it but its definitely not the right round for the job, even though its legal here in tx to do so.
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.... Most hunters think that .338WM is the ultimate Elk killer. My 7MM Rem Mag w/ a 160gr barnes will do the job just as well at 500 yards and under. Many think a .223 is sufficant for Whitetail, ummm no.
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As it happens, I just hung up a 5x6 skull/horns from last fall when I dropped it with a 7 Mag, 160 gr. Game King. It dropped before I could get a second shot away. I'm not a big Game King fan but they do shoot straight and that's just how it panned out.

My .223 does not come to bear against anything bigger than a wolf. (Anyway, it's illegal here to shoot deer with a rifle smaller than .243.)
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like i said before, just because it can kill, doesn't mean its a good choice,, hell .22lr had kill lots of deer but its left more suffering and wounded than it has killed,, same for .223 which is why it like the lr has been outlawed in most states for use on whitetail

it not even reliable to kill people in one shot and we are softer than deer
IMO this speaks to what people selectively hear; when you say

"take the 5.56 in 75-80 grains fired through a 22"-1/7 barrel, and

.223 will kill deer", all folks want to listen to is the ".223 will kill deer"

part of that statement. They then go out with 40 or 45 grain .223 shot

through 16"- 1/10 or 1/12 barrels, shoot deer, and the deer proceeds to

irrigate 4000 acres of woodland with it's body fluid. No surprises there...
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looks like more internet nonsense being spread by a like minded person such as your self,, if one looks hard enough on the net they could justify there opionion what ever that my be

the net is very full of misinformation and i do not speak of what i have read but what i have done and seen time and time again,, .223 can kill a deer yes, just like .22lr can but its not reialible enought for a "clean & humane" kill, argue all you want and your still wrong like it or not,, this is not opionion this is fact.

i have even seen a deer dropped with a 9mm carbine, it can do it but its definitely not the right round for the job, even though its legal here in tx to do so.
Misinformation? Im pretty sure AMERICAN HUNTER magazine isn't in the habit of spreading misinformation. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Have you ever used a 223 and a bullet designed to hunt medium sized game? Of course you haven't you're just talking ****. Every deer and pig Ive killed has been a clean and humane kill. Nothing wrong with that partner. You are gonna try and tell me how to hunt when you want to use the worst 30cal round ever invented. Come on man.
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Misinformation? Im pretty sure AMERICAN HUNTER magazine isn't in the habit of spreading misinformation. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. Have you ever used a 223 and a bullet designed to hunt medium sized game? Of course you haven't you're just talking ****. Every deer and pig Ive killed has been a clean and humane kill. Nothing wrong with that partner. You are gonna try and tell me how to hunt when you want to use the worst 30cal round ever invented. Come on man.
Who's talking ****? Who says the M43 is "the worst 30cal round ever

invented" ? You? American Hunter magazine is in the habit of spreading

exactly what it's readers and advertisers want to see.
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I think you guys should settle this with a shoot-off, live targets; i'd suggest bear cubs, maybe three each at different ranges. Use a stopwatch to see how long they twitch after a good shot to their breadbasket. The upside is, no matter which of you wins, the bears lose.

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