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Old 01-29-2015, 11:31 PM   #11
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Nobody's looking for keyholing from any rifle. If your bullets are arriving at the target sideways, they're not properly stabilized.

For the optic, buy something that's as tough as the rifle. If you prefer forward mounts, go with an Aimpoint Micro on an Ultimak mount.

If you prefer the optic over the receiver, go with an Aimpoint Comp M3 on a RS Regulate mount.

Magnified optics permit a clearer view of the target at distance, but you do have to have proper eye relief for that to be an option. Something in the 2X-7X range or 1X-6X generally works well at shorter distances.
I think by keyholing he meant precision shooting
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Nobody's looking for keyholing from any rifle. If your bullets are arriving at the target sideways, they're not properly stabilized.



For the optic, buy something that's as tough as the rifle. If you prefer forward mounts, go with an Aimpoint Micro on an Ultimak mount.



If you prefer the optic over the receiver, go with an Aimpoint Comp M3 on a RS Regulate mount.



Magnified optics permit a clearer view of the target at distance, but you do have to have proper eye relief for that to be an option. Something in the 2X-7X range or 1X-6X generally works well at shorter distances.

Those rs mounts sit low and center? Price?
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I think by keyholing he meant precision shooting

Yeah, sorry about that
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Those rs mounts sit low and center? Price?
The optic is positioned low and is centered over the receiver. With the Comp M3, you get a lower 1/3 co-witness on your irons. The mount is quick-release, so you can easily remove it.

Everywhere I've seen them sold they run about $180 for the mount and ring for the Aimpoint.

Even if you opt for a less expensive optic than an Aimpoint, I wouldn't try to cheap out on the mount.
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The optic is positioned low and is centered over the receiver. With the Comp M3, you get a lower 1/3 co-witness on your irons. The mount is quick-release, so you can easily remove it.



Everywhere I've seen them sold they run about $180 for the mount and ring for the Aimpoint.



Even if you opt for a less expensive optic than an Aimpoint, I wouldn't try to cheap out on the mount.

Mount seems like a good product. I know the comp m3's are great optics but I'm really wanting magnification. Think I could run a flip out or QD magnifier behind the m3 on that mount?
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Mount seems like a good product. I know the comp m3's are great optics but I'm really wanting magnification. Think I could run a flip out or QD magnifier behind the m3 on that mount?
Unfortunately, no.

Even if you forward bias the optic, an Aimpoint magnifier would be a little too close to your eye.

If you had a variable magnification optic with a 30MM tube (pretty standard these days) you could use two of the 30MM rings to mount it. The bell for the objective and ocular lenses would probably have to be 42MM in diameter or less, though. We're basically talking about using a low variable magnification "tactical" rifle scope.

Although RS Regulate makes a picatinny rail and an ACOG rail that can be screwed into the mount in place of the 30MM Aimpoint rings, both of these mount options are going to place the optic higher above the receiver. The ACOG mount is worse than the PK-AS (a Russian red dot optic, if you're not familiar with it). It simply wasn't designed for the AK platform.

If you go with the variable magnification optic, you'll want the full length mount. I believe all mounts are the same price (look it up for yourself because I'm not sure), so it doesn't matter if you get the forward bias, rear bias, or full length mount.
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Info on Russian scopes http://russianoptics.net/545.html
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Are their any stocks with adjustable cheek risers built n? Also for trigger I hear red star army is good but I also heard gessiel is coming out with one for 2015. Anyone with experience other than a G2?
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Any more optic ideas?
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There aren't a lot of good mount options for the AK and all of the less expensive optics mounts are going to place the optic so far above the receiver that it's difficult to get a good cheek weld without having an adjustable stock.

By the time you pay for the adjustable stock, you could have simply purchased a mount that lowers the height of the optic. Steer clear of Rube Goldberg solutions to a simple problem.

However, I had a complete brain fart and forgot about Midwest Industries. They have a mount that's perfect for what you want to use it for. It's less expensive than the RS Regulate option and only slightly heavier.
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