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Old 09-25-2013, 07:18 PM   #1
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I know old timers that have used 1911s for deer successfully, my question is this: what do you all think about a 45 for deer out of a carbine? I love challenging myself with what others think is dumb cartridge choices for deer. Along the way, I have found that a 223 is actually a great choice for deer if you wait for a perfect shot. The the fusion ammo, they don't go far when hit in the vitals if they go anywhere. If I shot 75 yards and under does the 45 have the power to take my whitetail? Give me hard facts, I love numbers and I know you all can give me the numbers on whether it will cleanly take a deer and at what ranges.

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Old 09-25-2013, 08:06 PM   #2
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Kinda sounds like you just like opening up worm cans. You're gonna do whatever you want to do, regardless of what anyone says, for the 'challenge' of it. So what youre really after is for people to argue about it.
Will a .45acp work? Yep. At 75 yds? Probly. Should it be tried just for a 'challenge' or an experiment? That can only be answered by YOUR ethics.
Personally, I try my best for a quick, sure kill. Im past the point in my life where I thought it was fun to just see what happens, in regards to an animal that I am hunting.

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45acps would be illegal to use down in Idaho, Utah, as well as others and here in Alaska for not having enough energy. What state do you live in Casey?

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even in a carbine, there are still many more much better choices than a 45 acp. it's a heavy and slow round. yes under ideal conditions and range, it will kill a deer. but still IMO, there are much better choices.

if it was a situation where that's all i had, and i needed the deer meat to survive, it would be a good choice.

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Why not just get a muzzle-loading rifle for challenge?



My first thought was "didn't Danny DeVito do that in the movie Hoffa?".

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With a 230 Gr, carbine velocities, ballistic co-efficent of 0.195, the energy at 75 yds is light for what I would consider a humane kill. Over 75 yds, it begins to drop like a bad habit.


Zeroed at 50 yds, at 75 yards has 398 ft lbs, strikes -3.6 inches below POA.
At 100 yds, it would have 383 Ft lbs, and be 10 inches low.

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Not cool. Not humane. That is all I am going to say.

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There is a reason that experienced hunters use rifles....

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Whoa fellas...calm yourselves :-). I asked a question to get more information before I went out on this venture. I not one time said that I am going to do this...I merely suggested it would be an interesting endeavor. Now, I have not one time shot an animal to just see what happens. I have always asked for advice before hunting with ANY caliber. I do like to hunt with different calibers, it does make the heart race quite a bit when you have to sit and watch the animals for a very long time until the shot is perfect, or watch the animal walk away. C3shooter, that is what I was wanting to know. Thank you for you expertise sir. I live in Kentucky...I tried to put that in the original post, but I was trying to multitask and it didn't fair too well.
The challenge is knowing that the animal I plan to harvest has to be 100% perfect before the shot can be made. When I go out with a 243 I know from experience that a fusion bullet will go thru the shoulder and exit the other side, so if the animal is quartered slightly, it is still going to get the amount of penetration needed to reach the vitals. When I hunt with a 223, I know that the animal has to be perfect in order to be able to put the bullet into the vitals, stay away from the shoulder, no long shots, no quartering shots etc...I don't appreciate being told that I am inhumane in my hunting ethics because I tried to gain more knowledge on a round I was not familiar with out of a carbine. Thanks for those who had advice and not criticism.

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I didn't mean to sound mean. I was just suggesting a different way to increase the "challenge" by using a BP rifle. There are some fairly inexpensive models that will also look cool on the wall. In many states you get an extra week or so on the season for using a "primitive" weapon.

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