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Old 03-10-2012, 01:10 AM   #121
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Vikings never hunt with a gun any way. They are always wacking things with

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Old 03-10-2012, 07:10 AM   #122
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Vikings never hunt with a gun any way. They are always wacking things with

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Funny that you should mention using something with a blade because I've been considering getting a Samurai sword. I already have a nice sharp machete but it's hard to carry concealed . Anyway I figure if I used a blade I wouldn't give firearms a bad name.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:02 PM   #123
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Cape Buffalo w/ a .25 caliber 117gr bullet. That is pure stupid!! Here are some links to Dangerous game rifles and hunting.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/bolt_rifles_dangerous_game.htm
http://www.africanskyhunting.co.za/riflehunting.html
http://www.americanrifleman.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=2528&cid=3

Sure these are opinions, But the guys that wrote them know their stuff.

Roy Weatherby was experimenting when he shot many plains animals, not the most ethical guy. This article spoke of his theory that the shock was the factor that put the animals down.


Qoute: Roy Weatherby, on an African safari, intentionally gut shot dozens of plains animals with a .257 Wby. Mag. rifle in an attempt to demonstrate this theory. Most (perhaps all) were one shot kills. I understand that he even killed a Cape buffalo with his .257 Magnum.

I accept Mr. Weatherby's account of these experiments (that is, that the animals died quickly after being shot), but I seriously question the hydrostatic shock explanation for those kills. Any doctor or zoologist can tell you that the veins and arteries of all mammals are quite flexible. They have a lot of potential to expand or "give." Because of this, hydrostatic shock is very unlikely. To return to the automobile brake analogy, hydraulic brakes simply won't work if the brake lines give when the driver hits the brake pedal. The hydraulic pulse is not transmitted, but rather absorbed in the brake lines--or, in the case of an animal, the veins and arteries.

I am a fan of Weatherby rifles and the .257 Weatherby Magnum cartridge, but my guess is that those African animals simply succumbed to the tissue damage and blood loss caused by the impact of those high velocity .257 bullets. I don't think that hydrostatic shock had much to do with it.

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Any SOB that would gut shoot any thing on purpose should be Hell bound. I still consider him and his products"Holly Wood Hunters".

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When I read about Roy and Africa, I do not remember him gut shooting anything and when engaging significantly larger game, he aimed where the head met the neck and the resulting impact was as dramatic as it was final.

Evidently, I may not have read everything he wrote.

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I do not condone shooting at anything unless you can drop it humanely.

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Yes, it was people like Ole Roy that put a stop to this disregard for big game animals. Bill Ruger bragged in his ads that killing great apes was fun with the then new Ruger .44 Mag carbine. His pictures in magazines smiling with a dead ape did not fare all that well. These men were selling firearms period.
The 44 Mag Carbine was a nice piece but it had a bad reputation for mnt. I'd heard it was stocked as a last resort rifle for the NY ZOO. Talk about faith in advertising...
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I'm just gonna settle this. There are only 2 rifles. A 30-06 and everything else.

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I'm just gonna settle this. There are only 2 rifles. A 30-06 and everything else.
Don't you have. 25-06, 243, 30-30, need I go on?
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Don't you have. 25-06, 243, 30-30, need I go on?
I retract nothing. You yourself said on this very day you want an -06. I have video evidence...
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I retract nothing. You yourself said on this very day you want an -06. I have video evidence...
I'm not saying I don't need, yes need a win model 70 '06. But there are other very capable rounds. As long as you don't try to shoot one with an AR, you'd be fine
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