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Old 09-01-2013, 02:07 PM   #121
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the 7mm-08 is a 308 necked down to a 7mm caliber. the 308 was derived from the 30-06, so yes the 7mm-08 is indirectly derived from the 30-06 as well IMO.
The 308 was derived from the 7.62x51 which was derived from the 300 Savage which was NOT derived from the 30-06. People assume the 308 was based on the 06 because it shares the same head size but the 06 was not the first to use that either.
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The 308 was derived from the 7.62x51 which was derived from the 300 Savage which was NOT derived from the 30-06. People assume the 308 was based on the 06 because it shares the same head size but the 06 was not the first to use that either.
the 308 was introduced by Winchester in 1952. the 7.62x51mm NATO was adopted in 1954. the 7.62 Nato was derived from the 308 which Winchester commercialized two years prior to NATO adopting it.

yes it was derived from the 300 Savage. the parent cartridge for the 300 Savage was the 250-3000 Savage, whose parent cartridge was the 30-06 Springfield.

so in a round about way, the 308 is indirectly derived from the 30-06, through the 300 Savage. so anything derived from the 308, such as the 243 or 7mm-08 are indirectly derived from the 30-06.
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the 308 was introduced by Winchester in 1952. the 7.62x51mm NATO was adopted in 1954. the 7.62 Nato was derived from the 308 which Winchester commercialized two years prior to NATO adopting it.

yes it was derived from the 300 Savage. the parent cartridge for the 300 Savage was the 250-3000 Savage, whose parent cartridge was the 30-06 Springfield.

so in a round about way, the 308 is indirectly derived from the 30-06, through the 300 Savage. so anything derived from the 308, such as the 243 or 7mm-08 are indirectly derived from the 30-06.
That's like reading who begat who in the bible :-)
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I kinda like just about everything that burns nitrocellulose, so these "best" threads get me. Don't think I'd like to shoot 500 NE double offhand as a plinker, or a .50 BMG handgun, but...........:>)

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To much info, my head hurts!

But seriously, I hunted with the 06 for MANY years and I enjoyed it, BUT to me the PERFECT deer round is the 7-08!!!
If I go after bigger game I would use a bigger round.
I think a better way to say it is the 06 is probably the 'best' multi purpose round. Not really 'perfect' for anything but a jack of all trades!

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As the OP originally asked, is the .30-06 the perfect hunting caliber ? I say NO, but I will say that the .30-03 has fostered more rounds than any other, & those being the .30-06 Springfield, the .25-06 Remington, .270 Winchester, .338-06 A-Square, .35 Whelen, .375 Whelen, & so forth & so on, some that even the ballistic benefit make it all but useless. Some 15+ cartridges sprung from the old .30-03/.30-06..............

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As the OP originally asked, is the .30-06 the perfect hunting caliber ? I say NO, but I will say that the .30-03 has fostered more rounds than any other, & those being the .30-06 Springfield, the .25-06 Remington, .270 Winchester, .338-06 A-Square, .35 Whelen, .375 Whelen, & so forth & so on, some that even the ballistic benefit make it all but useless. Some 15+ cartridges sprung from the old .30-03/.30-06..............
I wasn't even going to go there with the .30-03, but I'm glad someone did.
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I wasn't even going to go there with the .30-03, but I'm glad someone did.
the 30-03 was the granddaddy of them! it startd the whole thing, even though it was only used for less than three years.
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You beat me to it. The 30-03 is great, great grand pa more commonly know as a .30cal government in the military during trials and given the 30-'03 name after the fact name do to the year of 1903

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the 30-03 was the granddaddy of them! it startd the whole thing, even though it was only used for less than three years.
Did you mean 8x57?? the .30-03 was a copy of the 8x57 round (as was the rifle), Here's your daddy! There is a slight difference between 7x57, not it.
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