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Old 08-31-2013, 04:13 AM   #101
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Somebody is in love with his calibre. Lol lol lol. Do you have a tattoo of that rd?
what's not to love about it? look at it's history and it's performance over the years. look at it's accomplishments. look at all the other cartridges derived from it over the years. look at how many gun makers chamber for it. look at how many different types of rifles are chambered in it. over 100 years old, and still going strong.

no i don't have a tattoo of it. but i do own one!
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I would suggest that there is no "perfect" round, but the .30/06 is probably one of the most versatile ones out there and can be adapted to many hunting situations. At least here in the US. I don't know about elsewhere.
Good point. Depending on where you are in the world, 7.62x54R, 7x57,
8x57 will be more common. A lot of that goes back to the colonial
period--where every major power had colonies and possessions in
different parts of the world. And no--I haven't forgotten the king
of the colonial cartridges--and one that will give the '06 a real run
for worldwide popularity--303 Brit.
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I would suggest that there is no "perfect" round, but the .30/06 is probably one of the most versatile ones out there and can be adapted to many hunting situations. At least here in the US. I don't know about elsewhere.
Fairly popular here in Australia especially on a lot of our deer species.The pig in my avatar wore a 165gn GameKing at roughly 20yds when it burst out from under my feet on a creek bank in the Northern Territory a couple of years ago.
My 30/06AI works very well on deer, pigs, goats using 165gn GameKings and 61.5gns of AR2209 for 2945fps.

Axxe 555 the .243 is based off the .308.
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Fairly popular here in Australia especially on a lot of our deer species.The pig in my avatar wore a 165gn GameKing at roughly 20yds when it burst out from under my feet on a creek bank in the Northern Territory a couple of years ago.
My 30/06AI works very well on deer, pigs, goats using 165gn GameKings and 61.5gns of AR2209 for 2945fps.

Axxe 555 the .243 is based off the .308.
yes quite true, but the 308 is pretty much based off the 30-06, so anything based off the 308, is indirectly based off the 30-06.

the 25-06, the 280 Rem. are based directly off the 30-06, only being pretty much neck sized in a different caliber.

but the 243, and the 7mm-08 are based off the 308, which is basically just a shortened 30-06 case.
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So then tell us all which 'one' round can do it all better?

Myself and all the gun writers who know a lot more than I do and have written about the 30.06's versatility for decades all want to know.
I wouldn't cite writers in a gun rag as any sort of authority on anything other than shilling for advertising dollars.

You can pull out back issues of any of those things from 1972 and substitue the gun or caliner being reviewed for a current gun and you prolly couldn't tell which article was written when....
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I wouldn't cite writers in a gun rag as any sort of authority on anything other than shilling for advertising dollars.

You can pull out back issues of any of those things from 1972 and substitue the gun or caliner being reviewed for a current gun and you prolly couldn't tell which article was written when....
So Jeff cooper and Massad Ayoob, etc are not authorities on anything because they may have written in a gun magazine? hrmmmm.... ok
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Heck--if the question is "cartridges based off of the 30-06", don't forget 45 ACP. It's just the 30-06, shortened. A lot.

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yes quite true, but the 308 is pretty much based off the 30-06, so anything based off the 308, is indirectly based off the 30-06.

the 25-06, the 280 Rem. are based directly off the 30-06, only being pretty much neck sized in a different caliber.

but the 243, and the 7mm-08 are based off the 308, which is basically just a shortened 30-06 case.
Ok, I'm splitting hairs here but is the 7mm-08 indirectly based off the 30/06 or 7mm Mauser? I know the brass is a necked down 308 but the bullet is 7mm and the ballistics are almost identical to 7mm Mauser.
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Ok, I'm splitting hairs here but is the 7mm-08 indirectly based off the 30/06 or 7mm Mauser? I know the brass is a necked down 308 but the bullet is 7mm and the ballistics are almost identical to 7mm Mauser.
the 7mm-08 is a 308 necked down to a 7mm caliber. the 308 was derived from the 30-06, so yes the 7mm-08 is indirectly derived from the 30-06 as well IMO.
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So Jeff cooper and Massad Ayoob, etc are not authorities on anything because they may have written in a gun magazine? hrmmmm.... ok
There are some very good writers out there, but I do get JonM's point (and yours). So much of this comes down to figuring out what works for you, and that may or may not be what works for writers. I don't consider most writers as any more knowledgeable than a lot of us. They just happen very gifted with a pen.
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