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dreweB 10-02-2012 05:00 AM

30-06.. Long shot
 
I currently white tail hunt with a tikka t3 30-06... I shoot 180 ballistic tip Remington ammo, which I would not feel comfortable taking a deer over 175 yards... I'm thinking of switching to a smaller grain and possible different brand of ammo... My goal is to be able to reach out to 300 and 400 yards and hit a deer... Who has recomendations on ammo size? Brand? And any scope suggestions would be helpful as well

greydog 10-02-2012 05:53 AM

The 180 grain BT will work just fine on deer out to 400 yards after you practice enough to be capable of consistently hitting the vital area of a deer at that range. Properly sighted in, a 30/06 with 180's will have a "point blank" range of about 275 yds. Beyond that an adjustment in aiming point or a scope adjustment is required.
150's shoot flatter but still would require correction at 300 yds+.
The maximum range at which you can hit a gallon milk jug lying on it's side EVERY TIME, is your maximum effective range on big game if you have any respect for the game. Equipment can stretch the range to a certain extent but practice and familiarity with the equipment you have can stretch it even more.
Recomendations for optics will vary according to the type of hunting you do. Hunting in rough country and in adverse conditions places the emphasis on ruggedness over everything else. Sitting in a stand and watching a field places little restriction what you can use. I lean toward the rugged and rudimentary side of things so I prefer fixed power scopes of 4 or 6 power for most applications. I loathe big heavy scopes with large objective lenses for field use. This is, I know, counter to the trend of the times but there it is! GD

Vikingdad 10-02-2012 06:04 AM

The 180 grain should be fine out to 300 or 400 yards, as long as you are up to the task. As Greydog said, if you can hit a milk jug consistently out that far you will be fine. Practice until you can, or limit your shots to those within your effective range.

Eturnsdale 10-02-2012 06:16 AM

Yes 180s will put em down if you can get consistent.

My questions is why is that a goal for you? It is not super difficult to get consistent at long shots. What is difficult is getting close enough to make short shots.

Shooting is the easiest part of hunting. The hunt before, and what comes after the shot is much more difficult.

The_Kid 10-02-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eturnsdale (Post 961183)
My questions is why is that a goal for you?

I don't think it is any of our business. If the shot taken is ethical, why question his motives?

Old_Crow 10-02-2012 08:25 AM

If I can make 300 yard shots with a 230 grain round nose bullet you can make a 175 yard shot with a 180 gr boat tail bullet...If you shoot with your eyes open. You don't even have to spit on the front sight :)

Triumphman 10-02-2012 06:01 PM

Sounds like ya got a plan. If you can't bring the deer in closer, reach out and touch them at a distance. Those 180's will do the trick for ya, PLUS, you'll also have good knockdown when it hits. No need to go to 150gr, unless your rifle shoots better with them.
As to a scope, I have a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40 in Leupold rings on my cheap-ass Mossberg ATR100 in 30-06, and it'll bring down any deer within 200yds using CoreLok 150gr HP. It'll shoot 180gr also, but it groups better with the 150gr. If I was trying to go out further, I would switch to a heavier grain and FMJ for deeper penetration.
Del

dreweB 10-02-2012 11:42 PM

Triumph man yes I just order me a Nikon prostaff 4-12x40 today and I am going to put that on my tikA T3 30-06 and see how far I can get out to ... U like ur Nikon??? And the Leupold rings are by far the best rings out there I was in a stand last year and the bottom rotten out and everything in the Stand fell out , besides me, my scope hit the tree and ground but the rings didn't move at all shot it the next day and was dead on

Triumphman 10-03-2012 01:44 AM

Love my Nikon. Great glass. I got it used, but it's been the best so far for my 30-06.
Del

kalboy26 10-03-2012 05:12 AM

I also have a NIKON buckmaster 3x9 and have been really happy with it. I have the bdc reticle and can shoot an elk at 600 If I really needed too. I shoot the tikka in 300wsm though. I would go with the NIKON since they have the ballistic calculator for their scopes, and you can select the bullet type and everything. I think vortex has a similar thing as well, but not sure. Vortex has the best warranty though with good bdc scopes as well.


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