[axxe55]

Originally Posted by bamashooter68

My choice would be a 30-06 just because I reload for that caliber. A quality bolt action and optic is a must at long range, as well as skill. Shots past 400yrds gets a bit tricky unless you have done it. To hunt past that range you have to do it very well. If you take a shot at a deer at 500+yards you had better be able to hit the deer in the sweet spot. Like axxe55 said, you better be able to hit a 4-5'' target at those distances every shot. If you cant you have no business trying.

BTW if I wasnt reloading 30-06 I would go with the 300 Win Mag. I would love to have a 30-06 Ackley Improved. That turnes a very good .30 caliber into a great .30 caliber. .308 would be my last choice.

Originally Posted by HockaLouis

Easily enough done -- find a decent 'smith to ream the chamber a bit. You can always still shoot factory .30-06 out of it!

Hock is correct. most people just start out at lower powder charge and fire form the brass rather than spending the money buying A.I. brass. ballistics on the MV can increase from about 100-300 FPS depending on powder charge and barrel length.

[Flat Tire]

Originally Posted by lbwar15

The R1? It seams like a nice rifle. But it's ugly as hell. Just my OP tho. To each his own.

7.3 lbs semi auto with half the felt recoil. It is 7.3 lbs - show me another with half the felt recoil at 7.3 lbs.

[Gonzilla]

G&A had an article about a gunsmith who builds specialized LR rifles. Think it Grey-something or other. Leupold made special scope adj for him. He made the rifles in two calibers .243 & 7 mm mag. The latter he loads w 160 gr. at 3,000 fps. (high BC)

[Hawkeye3030]

At 800 to 1000 yards, I am shooting at are hard fixed targets on a prepared range. Also, I am sitting in the middle of 7000 acres+ without ANYONE around. It too dangerous to shoot in a populated area. I am not going to take that chance For deer, all I need is a 30-30 for I am sitting in the middle of Deer/ Turkey Central.

[johndeere]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye3030

At 800 to 1000 yards, I am shooting at are hard fixed targets on a prepared range. Also, I am sitting in the middle of 7000 acres+ without ANYONE around. It too dangerous to shoot in a populated area. I am not going to take that chance For deer, all I need is a 30-30 for I am sitting in the middle of Deer/ Turkey Central.

We are running around a 13000ac cattle farm in the middle of the country so i have enough room to to use whichever gun but i need a long hard hitting gun

[bamashooter68]

Originally Posted by axxe55

Hock is correct. most people just start out at lower powder charge and fire form the brass rather than spending the money buying A.I. brass. ballistics on the MV can increase from about 100-300 FPS depending on powder charge and barrel length.

I did not know that. I have a great gunsmith. He is old and wise. I might need to check into that because I would love to boost the velocity up towards AI ranges. BTW my barrel is 24''.

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by bamashooter68

I did not know that. I have a great gunsmith. He is old and wise. I might need to check into that because I would love to boost the velocity up towards AI ranges. BTW my barrel is 24''.

all he would need, if he didn't have it would be a 30-06 A. I. reamer to change the dimensions of the chamber.

several of my load data books carry the A.I. load data. personally i would also invest in a set of dedicated loading dies as well.

if i owned two rifles chambered in 30-06, one would probably be chambered in 30-06 A.I.

[HockaLouis]

Originally Posted by bamashooter68

I did not know that. I have a great gunsmith. He is old and wise. I might need to check into that because I would love to boost the velocity up towards AI ranges. BTW my barrel is 24''.

.30-06 AI usually gains you almost 100 fps. And remember energy is calculated with velocity SQUARED, an increase has an exponential impact, and a little more speed goes a long way.

[Hawkeye3030]

Just been offered some tractor implements valued at $1800 for my win 300, I guess this is one way to beat your swords into plowshares. Will miss the win, but need the equipment. One day I will get another one.

[Ultimate_sig]

Originally Posted by johndeere

I am looking for a good long range deer hunting gun and am choosing between a 30-06 winchester which is what i have been hunting with, a 300 or a 308. If a 300 or 308 which producing company is the most reliable

I have a brand new vepr 7.62x54r im looking to sell. It would be great for what you want. The round is in between a .308 and a 30.06. I havent even opened the mags.