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robertwc 04-15-2013 04:17 AM

.280 questions
 
When I buy rounds for my .280 I see on the box that they are suitable for use in 7 mm express Remington. Is it suitable to go in reverse?

nitestalker 04-15-2013 04:32 AM

Yes, they are the same ammo. The .280 is simply a 30-06 necked to a 7MM. A damn fine cartridge.

smarquez 04-15-2013 04:50 AM

I think I heard there was a little identity crisis/confusion with the 7MM Remington Mag so Remington re designated it .280 Remington. It's what I shoot. I went .280 to be a little different.

TLuker 04-15-2013 05:29 AM

Great question. This is the rare exception when the two actually are the exact same cartridge. The .280 is what my dad shoots and it is a great cartridge.:)

robertwc 04-15-2013 05:34 AM

Thanks. I am new to multiple gun ownership and am trying to learn as much as possible.

nitestalker 04-15-2013 05:43 AM

Remington offered the .280 Remington in 1962 to compete with the popular .270 Winchester. Problem, they offered it in the Remington 740 Semi-Auto. They had to offer a .280 loaded below the bolt action pressures of the .270.
In 1979 they renamed it but continued loading to a lower pressure round. The 7MM Express lasted one year. The Remington 7MM-08 was released and the .280 Remington entered into cartridges of the past.:(

Axxe55 04-15-2013 10:05 AM

Nitestalker is correct, except it lasted from 1979-1981 from what i determined and they went back to calling it the 280 Remington. the 280 Remington and the 7mm Express are the same cartridge, just different names. in 1979, Remington wanted to revive interest in the 280 Rem., so with some clever marketing, they renamed it the 7mm Express. problem was, that people confused it with the 7mm Rem. Mag., so after two years, they went back to using the name 280 Remington.

ballistics wise, the 280 Remington is about in between the 270 Winchester and the 7mm Rem. Mag. a few rifle manufacters do offer it currently.

it is one of my favorites and they are usually scarce to find. i searched for over 10-12 years trying to locate one. i finally found one last year, in an older Ruger M77V (made in 1978) at my LGS. one of my favorite rifles to shoot.

cottontop 04-15-2013 12:54 PM

The .244 Remington and the 6mm Remington is another case where both names are the exact same cartridge. Won't get into the reasons and whys here and now as the subject has been written about to death, but a quick google search will explain it.
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smarquez 04-15-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitestalker (Post 1214449)
Remington offered the .280 Remington in 1962 to compete with the popular .270 Winchester. Problem, they offered it in the Remington 740 Semi-Auto. They had to offer a .280 loaded below the bolt action pressures of the .270.
In 1979 they renamed it but continued loading to a lower pressure round. The 7MM Express lasted one year. The Remington 7MM-08 was released and the .280 Remington entered into cartridges of the past.:(

I think it's alive and well as shown by it's availability in high end custom rifles. In my rifle it hasn't been at all picky about bullet weights or powders for hand loading. That's when the .280 shines.

Axxe55 04-15-2013 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smarquez (Post 1214411)
I think I heard there was a little identity crisis/confusion with the 7MM Remington Mag so Remington re designated it .280 Remington. It's what I shoot. I went .280 to be a little different.

it was not re-designated the 280 Remington. it started as the 280 Remington when it was introduced in 1957. they renamed it the 7mm Express in 1979-1981 to try and revitalize it's image and re-promote it. due to confusion with the 7mm Rem. Mag. they changed it back to the 280 Remington.


I think it's alive and well as shown by it's availability in high end custom rifles. In my rifle it hasn't been at all picky about bullet weights or powders for hand loading. That's when the .280 shines.


that's the nice thing about high end custom rifles, you can get just about any caliber or chambering that you want. Ruger still offers the 280 Remington as well as Weatherby IIRC. there are a few that still offer it in a factory rifle.


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