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Old 05-11-2013, 09:26 PM   #51
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So we all agree the .22-250 is poor for big game and the argument is whether to accept the .243 for deer? Well...

...of course the .243 is fine for medium-sized game like deer. And much more versatile than the other.

Did I solve this for you guys?

What about bow and arrow!?

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So we all agree the .22-250 is poor for big game and the argument is whether to accept the .243 for deer? Well...

...of course the .243 is fine for medium-sized game like deer. And much more versatile than the other.

Did I solve this for you guys?

What about bow and arrow!?

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Dang all you guys all can pee far! (winks just like a 20ish can)

As for me, I used to be in love with the 22-250, but got tired of shooting out barrels. of the 2 choices, I would opt for the 243 for more versatility.

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Honestly I see nothing wrong with either caliber for whitetail deer, it all depends on the individual hunting scenario as to which caliber is more acceptable, if you are only shooting 20 yards you can shoot a whitetail in the head with a 22lr and kill it deader than a hammer, not to say that is legal but it will kill the deer, so will all the centerfire rounds, some are just more suited to the situation than others. If you start talking elk sized animals and long yardage then the situation changes. Which is better is a matter of opinion.

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It's funny, I read all these stories about how a 22LR isn't good for home protection etc, and then all the stories about them bouncing off the heads of intruders. And in a hunting thread, now its one shot in the head with a 22LR is all it takes. From seeing male deer in the rut and entangling their antlers with each other, their skulls look like they can take a lot more punishment than a humans, so which is it? Should I switch out and use my 617 Smith and Wesson for home defense or is a 22LR not really all that for hunting, and some people are not concerned with a humane kill?

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It's funny, I read all these stories about how a 22LR isn't good for home protection etc, and then all the stories about them bouncing off the heads of intruders. And in a hunting thread, now its one shot in the head with a 22LR is all it takes. From seeing male deer in the rut and entangling their antlers with each other, their skulls look like they can take a lot more punishment than a humans, so which is it? Should I switch out and use my 617 Smith and Wesson for home defense or is a 22LR not really all that for hunting, and some people are not concerned with a humane kill?
I didn't say 22LR was a good deer hunting round, I said at close range and good shot placement a shot to the brain box will kill a whitetail. Entangling their antlers and taking a lead pill to the temple are 2 different things. I made the statement purely to explain my point that all this talk of a 223 or 22 250 being to small is nonsense when even the lowly 22lr is capable of making a killing shot. Also I do believe a shot to the head and pretty much instant death is a pretty humane kill, so I don't know where you are going with your insinuation about not caring about humane kills, a 22 to the brain in most cases kills a deer faster than shooting it with an arrow which is perfectly legal. I am not advocating the use of 22LR for hunting deer, I simply stated it has been done before, usually by people who are treading outside the law and want a quiet shot. That doesn't mean it is ideal for either hunting or home defense however if I were in a home defense situation and the only thing I had handy was a 22 I'd certainly grab it and shoot, it may not be much but whomever it hits won't be happy either. In a hunting situation one has plenty of time to rest and take careful aim to try to ensure the best shot placement, in self defense it will be a heated nervous situation and hitting the target in a perfect place isn't going to be possible in most cases, this is what makes the 22 not so good for self defense in my opinion.
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I have the Marlin XS7VH in 22-250 and I put a high end 4-12 Nikon on it. It is a very accurate rifle. I have knock down varmints 300 yards with no problem. I shoot Hornady
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I have the Marlin XS7VH in 22-250 and I put a high end 4-12 Nikon on it. It is a very accurate rifle. I have knock down varmints 300 yards with no problem. I shoot Hornady
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Excellent, and sporting, but how many are deer sized? I think we'd all agree that the .243 is better for deer. And its varminting capability makes it a little unique in the world of America's Top-10 Cartidges.
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Excellent, and sporting, but how many are deer sized? I think we'd all agree that the .243 is better for deer. And its varminting capability makes it a little unique in the world of America's Top-10 Cartidges.
I would not say unique, the 25-06 is just as capable on varmint and I think everyone can agree that is a fantastic deer cartridge, the 243s only advantages are it's availability and the fact it is a short action.
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I would not say unique, the 25-06 is just as capable on varmint and I think everyone can agree that is a fantastic deer cartridge, the 243s only advantages are it's availability and the fact it is a short action.
I specifically said top-10 US cartridges. .25-06!?

BTW, your marginalized import of "availability" translates to lower price as well.

.25-06 indeed.
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