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bobsagget5 11-25-2011 03:45 AM

.22lr or .223?
 
Hi, I can't decide what rifle i want to buy. I have to choose between a S&W M&P 15-22 and a savage axis in .223. I want the .223 because I can reload for it (already have the equipment) and it has more recoil than a .22lr but the .22lr is way cheaper to shoot and the M&P 15-22 is a clone of a real AR15 so it's awesome. But I actually like to have recoil (I've shot my dads .264 magnum and it had a lot of recoil and I want something like that) I know the .223 recoil won't be anywhere close to a .264 mag but will it be satisfying to shoot it? Like will it feel like I'm shooting something a little bigger than a .22lr or an actual big rifle? So basically it comes down to this .22lr: low cost to shoot, no recoil, .223: higher cost to shoot, can reload, and some recoil but I don't know if it will be satisfying. So which one would be more fun to shoot and how much recoil does a .223 have? and ammo price is a big deal because I'm 15 and don't have a job :o. Thanks

robocop10mm 11-25-2011 04:03 AM

You will outgrow the need to feel recoil. The .223 has very little recoil, but that does not make it undesirable. If you NEED recoil, get a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 or .450 Marlin. THAT is recoil! To satisfy the need to experience the power of the rifle, shoot reactive targets like milk jugs filled with water and food coloring. Seeing the down range performance feeds the primal urges.

UrbanNinja 11-25-2011 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by robocop10mm
You will outgrow the need to feel recoil. The .223 has very little recoil, but that does not make it undesirable. If you NEED recoil, get a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 or .450 Marlin. THAT is recoil! To satisfy the need to experience the power of the rifle, shoot reactive targets like milk jugs filled with water and food coloring. Seeing the down range performance feeds the primal urges.

I agree with the idea of having the visual rather then the feeling of recoil. You can spend hundreds less on ammo and have hours of more fun with the .22lr I have many different calibers with plenty of recoil..but at the end of the day with my Sig Sauer 522 rifle, Ive spent $10 on ammo for 350 rounds.. and $15 fOr the range fee. $25 and ive just had 3 hours of fun for the same price of a 50rd box of .45acp, not to mention my shoulder isn't sore for the drive home.

Its all based on your personal decision but economically its cheaper to fire the .22lr even if you're reloading your own .223.

trip286 11-25-2011 04:27 AM

It also depends on what your wanting to do with it. If you just want to do some plinking, I'd stick to the .22, as that's where the economics will make the biggest impact.

UrbanNinja 11-25-2011 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by trip286
It also depends on what your wanting to do with it. If you just want to do some plinking, I'd stick to the .22, as that's where the economics will make the biggest impact.

It wouldn't be too bad for hunting small game as well (rabbits,squirrels small birds..etc..) Not to mention that a .22lr is fun for all ages. You can have years of fun with the .22 and pass it on to your children some day.

bobsagget5 11-25-2011 02:25 PM

Ok everyone, thanks for the input I will be getting the .22lr I already have a marlin 795 and a spinner target and it increases the fun a lot to shoot the spinner target. So I will just get another .22lr and save the larger calibers for when I'm older. Thanks!

spittinfire 11-25-2011 02:31 PM

I had to pick between those two I would be going with the S&W 22. Shooting 22s is cheap and fun. Combine that with the feel and experience of a AR15 and what more could you ask for?

gutz47 11-25-2011 02:35 PM

If you already own a semi auto 22lr, I say get the savage 223. You've got a 22lr for plinking, a 223 could be used for hunting. If your into the look of an ar15, save up and get the real deal. But that's just my opinion. Good luck kid.

purehavoc 11-25-2011 04:39 PM

I have several .22's so I bought a Axis .223 and my only complaint on that gun was the heavy trigger pull but one can take care of it in about 20 minutes and about $3 and get the trigger from 6.2# to right around 3# . SOme guys say the stock feels flimsy but I really dont notice it on the .223 since there isnt much recoil and I mainly shoot in the prone postion coyote hunting , in a .308 you might feel a difference as there is more recoil . I have to say I have less than 50 rds thru it mainly getting it sighted in and plinking after that , Its currently 3 shot grouping at 1.5" but I expect it to group better after I get 100+ rounds thru it and get a better feel of the gun . The scope that comes on the combo is not the best of quality , I would buy it without the scope and use that money on a better scope


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