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Old 02-22-2012, 11:02 PM   #21
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I'm kinda partial to Savage's.I've just been lucky coming across some great deals on several of them,and have a knack for making them shoot really good.Not that they don't shoot good out of the box,but I've done a little work on this one.

I just put a new scope on my Model 12 223 yesterday,and was able to sight it in today.I load all of my ammo,and that really helps bring out the best in any gun.



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1 in 9 gives at round stability with is a minimum standard and is good. Keeping that in mind we have to understand that good is the entry of best. 1 in 12 maximizes the accuracy of the round.

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1 in 9 gives at round stability with is a minimum standard and is good. Keeping that in mind we have to understand that good is the entry of best. 1 in 12 maximizes the accuracy of the round.
OK, a 1:12 only handles light weight bullets, but it some how maximizes accuracy? A 1:9 spins the bullet faster, almost 1/3 faster and can handle a wider variety of bullet weights, but you claim the 1:12 is more accurate.

Explain why almost every .223 HB varmint gun is a 1:9, 1:8. They must have a clue.
There has to be a reason why. Please enlighten me.
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I'm kinda partial to Savage's.I've just been lucky coming across some great deals on several of them,and have a knack for making them shoot really good.Not that they don't shoot good out of the box,but I've done a little work on this one.

I just put a new scope on my Model 12 223 yesterday,and was able to sight it in today.I load all of my ammo,and that really helps bring out the best in any gun.



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Slower twist for lighter bullets. 40gr - 50gr are best. It will shoot 55gr, but groups will open up.

55gr shoot fine out of my 1:12 savage axis , I havent tried any 45 gr yet . In the top pic is cheapo 55gr Remington UMC .223 @100 yards with 1" sq onthe target you can cover those 3 shots with a nickel . I have it zeroed for 200 yds. The axis trigger is a little heavy and need s some work but after that I do consider it a tack driver with match grade ammo . It can be bought for $269 most any where and around $300-$325 with the scope package , but I would pass on that and buy a better scope as its a cheapo . Its really makes for one hell of a cheap varmit/ coyote gun with a $105 6-24X40 bushnell banner scope



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55gr shoot fine out of my 1:12 savage axis , I havent tried any 45 gr yet . In the top pic is cheapo 55gr Remington UMC .223 @100 yards with 1" sq onthe target you can cover those 3 shots with a nickel . I have it zeroed for 200 yds. The axis trigger is a little heavy and need s some work but after that I do consider it a tack driver with match grade ammo . It can be bought for $269 most any where and around $300-$325 with the scope package , but I would pass on that and buy a better scope as its a cheapo . Its really makes for one hell of a cheap varmit/ coyote gun with a $105 6-24X40 bushnell banner scope
According to the Savage web site, the Axis in 223 Rem is a 1:9 twist. My Stevens 200 will shoot sub MOA with cheap 55gr ammo all day. Love it.
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According to the Savage web site, the Axis in 223 Rem is a 1:9 twist. My Stevens 200 will shoot sub MOA with cheap 55gr ammo all day. Love it.
Hmmm , Im sure mine says 1:12 on the barrel , I will have to double check when I go home for lunch . Honestly I would rather it be a 1:9 so I can shoot the same 62 gr ammo I use in my AR's
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According to the Savage web site, the Axis in 223 Rem is a 1:9 twist. My Stevens 200 will shoot sub MOA with cheap 55gr ammo all day. Love it.
This is correct. Savage uses a 1:9 twist rate. They are very accurate out of the box. We put some .5 moa groups together out of my grandsons Savage 10 package with 55 grn hand loads.
My 1:12 CZ starts to open up with 55 grn but loves 45 grn.
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Hmmm , Im sure mine says 1:12 on the barrel , I will have to double check when I go home for lunch . Honestly I would rather it be a 1:9 so I can shoot the same 62 gr ammo I use in my AR's
Do not shoot military 5.56x45 in your 223. You can have the chamber redone by a gunsmith to handle the NATO round.
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