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Old 01-04-2013, 08:55 PM   #51
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No .22 magnum? I noticed it was one of the few calibers available when things run short at Wally'sworld.
Plenty of .22WMR on line. Gotta love it.
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No .22 magnum? I noticed it was one of the few calibers available when things run short at Wally'sworld.
It seams to me the .22 mag is a hung out round when it comes to shtf. If your talking about a rifle why not just upgrade to .223. A little heavier but a lot better round in my OP. And Plus .22 mag can git heavy also. Also in a handgun why not just up to a 9mm. Same reasons as the rifle.
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Bingo...

They've got plenty...and 9 mm too.

In a worst case scenario where nothing is available commercially and the S has trully hit the F...calibers like .22 LR, .223, 9 mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP and .38 SPC will be the most plentifully "scavenged" rounds.

Which is why I chamber for ALL of them...with a couple of 7.62 x 39's thrown in for good measure and shotguns in both 12G and 20G.

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It seams to me the .22 mag is a hung out round when it comes to shtf. If your talking about a rifle why not just upgrade to .223. A little heavier but a lot better round in my OP. And Plus .22 mag can git heavy also. Also in a handgun why not just up to a 9mm. Same reasons as the rifle.
Not really advocating, just questioning. My only .22mag is a very worn pump-action rifle, a Rossi 61 i think. I have considered having it cerakoted and using it for a bugoutbag rifle; since it is a take-down, neither it nor its ammo take up much room. It would be adequate for small game getting and some self defense...except, i just don't much like that rifle.
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I have 2 friends that reload. Neither have a bench. One uses one of those black and decker folding benches and the other an old Lee hand loader.
http://www.blackanddecker.com/power-tools/WM425.aspx
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=0000690030

$200.00 gives you the basics. If I can so can you. I started w/ 8x57. Now about 16 cartridges.
I sold my AR about a year ago. My CZ527 in .223 w/ a CIP chamber really is a great rifle. Taking out 50..100 rounds is enough these days. If I want to dump some lead, my 5.45x39 AK does the trick. Fun gun. I bought a bunch of ammo when cans were 108.00, then a few more when it hit 129.00. Still have 4 unopened cans, 1080 rounds each.
good info thanks. maybe someday.
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It seams to me the .22 mag is a hung out round when it comes to shtf. If your talking about a rifle why not just upgrade to .223. A little heavier but a lot better round in my OP. And Plus .22 mag can git heavy also. Also in a handgun why not just up to a 9mm. Same reasons as the rifle.
The .22WMR is a fine round on Human targets out to 100 yards. A VG choice if you have something to make them think a flanking move is better the a frontal assault.
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Not really advocating, just questioning. My only .22mag is a very worn pump-action rifle, a Rossi 61 i think. I have considered having it cerakoted and using it for a bugoutbag rifle; since it is a take-down, neither it nor its ammo take up much room. It would be adequate for small game getting and some self defense...except, i just don't much like that rifle.
It'll also drop deer all day long with head shots! It's a great caliber. As for the gun, get a different rifle. There's not much need in doing anything to a gun that you really don't like to begin with.
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Not really advocating, just questioning. My only .22mag is a very worn pump-action rifle, a Rossi 61 i think. I have considered having it cerakoted and using it for a bugoutbag rifle; since it is a take-down, neither it nor its ammo take up much room. It would be adequate for small game getting and some self defense...except, i just don't much like that rifle.
You can give it to me I been looking for a old 22 mag for 7 mouths but I cant find one for the life of me lol
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I can reload shot shells and save money but I really don't see it happening with a rifle unless you cast your own bullets. In fact, right now I can buy 9mm ammo cheaper than you can reload it. I am not going to spend the money for reloading equipment to load 500 cast 357 and 44 mag bullets that I shoot every year. The first sentence in every reloading how to book is you will not save any money by reloading.

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hmmmm..... will not save money by reloading? i do beg to differ. a box of 20 Premium Winchester Ballistic Silvertips of 280 Remington costs me $48.70 a box at my LGS. using my ammo cost calculator, buying new brass, my cost is $27.56 for 20 rounds and without the cost of the brass, my cost is $13.55 for 20 rounds.

now please explain how i am not saving money by reloading. even buying new brass everytime i reload, i still save over $21 per 20 rounds and once i have brass, then my savings is over $35 per 20 rounds! IMO, i am seeing a huge difference in savings by reloading.
Agreed! Same logic for me in reloading my .308's. I'm using Lapua brass so I should get some good life out of them. Saves lots of money! Now I'm gonna apply that to .223's as well.
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