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Old 12-17-2013, 03:03 PM   #11
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What is twist?
The rate of how the barrel imparts a spin on the bullet. A lower number is a faster twist, generally for heavier bullets.

No disrespect, but do you own any rifles at all? If not, maybe start with a .22lr.
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Old 12-17-2013, 04:23 PM   #12
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I have a Savage Model 11 Trophy Hunter XP and love it.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11TROPHYHUNTERXP
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:22 PM   #13
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I always hear that savage makes an accurate rifle. I believe the remmies are accurate too, though if I were going to buy one i'd get a savage.
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Welllllll.... That leaves out the most accurate and reliable 223's if you don't want an ar15.

Which means your stuck using a very very small selection of 55grain and 50 grain bullets and some 40 grainers. Bolt guns in 223 are almost always 1-12 twist to 1-14 twist unless you build from scratch. Even then they don't really compete with a good ar15 like a rra predator pursuit
Jon, come on now. I sold my DCM because it could not keep up w/ my CZ527. Which BTW has a 1:9 twist, CIP chamber, so Military ammo is no issue, and lastly, it is a Mauser.

OP, Cheap in a precision rifle does not work. I have no issue w/ accuracy in my CZ527 Varminter. 24" varmint contour barrel, 1:9 twist, so up to 65gr.(heaviest I use) are no issue. 50gr shoot just as well. The action was made to fit the cartridge, so it is much smaller and lighter then a standard action. It is called a Micro-Mauser. Just a wonderful rifle.

527 Mauser bolt compared w/ standard action '98 Mauser.
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Old 12-17-2013, 11:51 PM   #15
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Welllllll.... That leaves out the most accurate and reliable 223's if you don't want an ar15.

Which means your stuck using a very very small selection of 55grain and 50 grain bullets and some 40 grainers. Bolt guns in 223 are almost always 1-12 twist to 1-14 twist unless you build from scratch. Even then they don't really compete with a good ar15 like a rra predator pursuit
Jon,I agree with J.P..
My Savage 12 FLVSS will out shoot my RRA Varminter any day of the week,and twice on Sunday,with factory ammo,or hand loaded ammo tailored to each rifle.
From 55 gr - 75 gr bullets,the Savage 12 FLVSS is one of my most accurate rifles in my arsenal. And,it has a 1-9 twist to the 1-8 of the RRA Varminter.

There are some brands that still have the 1-12 twist rate,but most offer 1-7 / 1-8 / or 1-9 twist rates in at least a couple models.

The OP needs to know what price range he wants to stay in,and that will help determine what brands/models are in his price range.
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Jon,I agree with J.P..
My Savage 12 FLVSS will out shoot my RRA Varminter any day of the week,and twice on Sunday,with factory ammo,or hand loaded ammo tailored to each rifle.
From 55 gr - 75 gr bullets,the Savage 12 FLVSS is one of my most accurate rifles in my arsenal. And,it has a 1-9 twist to the 1-8 of the RRA Varminter.

There are some brands that still have the 1-12 twist rate,but most offer 1-7 / 1-8 / or 1-9 twist rates in at least a couple models.

The OP needs to know what price range he wants to stay in,and that will help determine what brands/models are in his price range.
Tx, You and I know that when you get into Varmint or Heavy barrels, it changes everything as far as twist. The Standard CZ527 American has a 1:12 as most sporter weight barrels do.
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