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Old 12-17-2013, 04:17 AM   #1
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What's the best overall rifle you know of/have shot... Accuracy, reliability things like that? Mostly for turkey practice and hunting. I do not want an ar-15
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Most bolt actions are reliable and accurate.
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They are hard to find, because they are out of production, but if you can find a Savage Model 24, chambered in .223 over 12 ga., you have found the best turkey gun on earth, IMO.

I have one and hunt with it in the Fall here in PA. It is heavy as all get out (8 lbs.+), but it gives you thye best of both worlds for turkey hunting!
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They are hard to find, because they are out of production, but if you can find a Savage Model 24, chambered in .223 over 12 ga., you have found the best turkey gun on earth, IMO.

I have one and hunt with it in the Fall here in PA. It is heavy as all get out (8 lbs.+), but it gives you thye best of both worlds for turkey hunting!
My old man has one in .222/20ga mag. I have always loved the gun even though his is in pretty rough shape.
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I like shooting my brother in laws mossberg MVP.
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There are plenty of good rifles out there. What bullet weight range are you looking at? Some rifles have 1:12 twist rate and handle lighter bullets better. Others have 1:9 twist and handle mid range bullets better. Some go to 1:7 and handle the heavier bullets better. I had a CZ 527 American 1:12 that would shoot cloverleafs with 45 grain bullets. I bought my grandson a Savage 10 1:9 and it would shoot 1/2 moa with 55 grain boat tail hand loads. My SIL sold his Rem 700 1:12 because the Savage out shot it. My current rifle is a Mossberg MVP 1:9 sporter weight. It takes AR magazines but smaller capacity mags are available I use 10's but I believe 4 and 5 round are available. It is sub moa with 55 and 62 which is all I have tried in it.
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What's the best overall rifle you know of/have shot... Accuracy, reliability things like that? Mostly for turkey practice and hunting. I do not want an ar-15
Welllllll.... That leaves out the most accurate and reliable 223's if you don't want an ar15.

Which means your stuck using a very very small selection of 55grain and 50 grain bullets and some 40 grainers. Bolt guns in 223 are almost always 1-12 twist to 1-14 twist unless you build from scratch. Even then they don't really compete with a good ar15 like a rra predator pursuit
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There are plenty of good rifles out there. What bullet weight range are you looking at? Some rifles have 1:12 twist rate and handle lighter bullets better. Others have 1:9 twist and handle mid range bullets better. Some go to 1:7 and handle the heavier bullets better. I had a CZ 527 American 1:12 that would shoot cloverleafs with 45 grain bullets. I bought my grandson a Savage 10 1:9 and it would shoot 1/2 moa with 55 grain boat tail hand loads. My SIL sold his Rem 700 1:12 because the Savage out shot it. My current rifle is a Mossberg MVP 1:9 sporter weight. It takes AR magazines but smaller capacity mags are available I use 10's but I believe 4 and 5 round are available. It is sub moa with 55 and 62 which is all I have tried in it.
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Remington Model 700 VLS or MODEL 700 VSSF II, MODEL 700 VLSS THUMBHOLE. If you don't mine switching out the hollow Chinese plastic stock and you don't mine people laughing at you for the stupid triangle barrel get the MODEL 700 VTR in 223 it has a 1:9" twist.

Or

If you want a Salvage rifle you can go with The 12 FV 9" twist, 12 FCV, 12 VLPDBM comes in 7 or 9" twist, 12 BTCSS 9" twist or the 12 LRPV Left port This comes with a 7 or 9 twist. The model 25 isn't a bad gun either but they are not going to be as accurate as the 12 series. In fact all savage bolt guns in 223 offer no slower than a 1:9" twist. So let me here again about how there are no bolt guns with faster than a 12" twist?
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