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Old 03-24-2009, 04:17 PM   #21
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Like the Bear said, work up a load. Try those heavier bullets and don't despair, we'll get through this.
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Old 03-24-2009, 05:46 PM   #22
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Just don't dillinger know you bought a R R R R R Remington. he will whip out his bash on remington hat and send you to his bogus thread.
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Old 03-24-2009, 07:07 PM   #23
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Well I am going to do two things. Shoot it some more, read up on it some more, and also go back to my old trusted gun shop and see what he can do.... Then weigh my options and regroup!


One big factor will be if I can put a aftermarket stock on it. I know there are a ton out there for the model 700 but will they fit the VTR?
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Old 03-25-2009, 01:52 AM   #24
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If the rifle will shoot at 100, it'll also shoot at 300. I've owned some Remingtons before and they shot fine. I've know a guy who shoots p-dogs at well past 300 yards regularly with a .223 using a Remington rifle. It's his go to gun for ranges up to about 500, then he goes with a 6mm.
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Well I am going to do two things. Shoot it some more, read up on it some more, and also go back to my old trusted gun shop and see what he can do.... Then weigh my options and regroup!


One big factor will be if I can put a aftermarket stock on it. I know there are a ton out there for the model 700 but will they fit the VTR?
Yes. Aftermarket stocks for Remmy 700's fit all. (Differences for long and short action) With .223 you have a short action. Most of them are designed as "Drop in". However, you will want to have it bedded.

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Old 03-25-2009, 03:40 AM   #26
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I know the JAE-700 stock has been receiving some rave reviews. Built for Remington 700s with short action. Kind of pricey but they guarantee accuracy. I was actually looking at one for the M1A I hope to get someday. There are actually some accessories from Tango Down that are offered as well. (In no way plugging, just info)

The .223 will reach 300yrds and with anything, accuracy takes some trigger time. As far as loads for the .223 I have a few recipes I could share. The latest I fired this weekend in a gusting headwind and managed 1 MOA at 100yrds with a RRA Varmint EOP. I am sure the groups will be better next time out when the weather is calmer.

Here is a link to JAE.

Manufacturer of Precision Rifle Stocks-J. Allen Enterprises, Inc. (JAE)

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Old 03-25-2009, 12:05 PM   #27
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Sounds like Im not as bad off as I thought. Will barrel length come into play? I know the VTR only has 20'' of usable barrel with the 2'' muzzy break.... I thought all along the 700 was a great action!
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I dont think it would be economical to replace the barrel, trigger stock yes.. I think stalkingbear is onto something about shooting the gun in... The only way Ill trade it in at this time is if the trade price is almost very very good. AK.... the trade will basicly have to be even up which the savage MSRP is around 550 and the VTR was 750 so If he would give me 600 for trade, I will do it...
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Old 03-25-2009, 06:47 PM   #29
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First thing I would do would be to drop that remington trigger and get a jewell if you can't afford the jewell ($100+) then go with a timney or Shilen trigger some like Rifle basix I do not. I would also get rid of the factory firing pin and shrowd and get a Calahan from Midway usa. You would be amazed how the trigger pull changed from the factory one. I lost .2" from the trigger and firing pis switch.
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Old 03-26-2009, 01:58 AM   #30
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Two questions.... 1 even with the triangle barrel the aftermarket Rem700 stocks will work? and 2 whats involved in bedding a barrel?
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