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Old 01-05-2017, 08:42 PM   #1
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Looking at getting into mid range shooting and a bit longer
Looking at a tikka t3 223 varmint heavy barrel 1:8 twist
20" barrel or would i be better of to wait to see if I can get a 24" barrel
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Old 01-05-2017, 09:16 PM   #2
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A 24 inch .223 HBAR will likely not give you a huge advantage over a 20". It will also be dang "H" (as in heavy) lol. I personally do not like a muzzle heavy weapon no matter what platform.

I assume that these barrels are SS. I am not familiar with the manufacturer. But a well made 20" SS 1/8 barrel will probably outshoot the shooter more often than not.

So I'd say go with the 20.


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Hi there
New to the form looking for some help and advice
Looking at getting into mid range shooting and a bit longer
Looking at a tikka t3 223 varmint heavy barrel 1:8 twist
20" barrel or would i be better of to wait to see if I can get a 24" barrel
Thanks for your help
First off, welcome.

What do you consider mid to long range? What kind of accuracy are you going for? (sub MOA, 1 MOA, etc.)

Tikka and Sako make some very accurate rifles, with some of the most accurate factory barrels I've encountered.

In .223 a 20" or 22" barrel is probably long enough to burn most powders pretty completely in that chambering. If you want to get more out of the round velocity wise, you would need a pretty slow burning powder.

As FrontierTCB already pointed out the longer barrel will really start to make a rifle front heavy once you get into the 24" range and any heavy barreled varmint rifle will already be pretty front heavy to begin with.
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A 20" barrel is all one needs. For example the competition shooters at the Camp Perry National Matches shoot up to 600 yards with their 20" AR Rifles.
So with the quality of the TIKKA Rifle one should have little difficulty.
When shooting at what one might consider mid or longer ranges like the 600 yards mentioned. Wind and learning to read the wind is the biggest factor when shooting the 223/5.56.

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A 20" barrel will serve you well,but you do give up some velocity over a 24" or 26" barrel.
If it's main purpose is just shooting targets,I prefer as long a barrel as I can get.
I have a 26" barrel on my Savage 12,but I use it for target shooting and varmint hunting off a rest-prone-or off bags. My AR's have 18" and 20" barrels so they are more compact and easier to carry in the field,or hunt out of a blind with.

Tikka makes a great rifle,and a 1-8 twist barrel will allow you to shoot most any bullet from 55 - 80 grain.
My Savage has a 1-9 twist,and will shoot up to 77 gr bullets really well,except for the longer 75 gr Hornady AMax bullets,they need a 1-8 twist to be stabilized good.

Like Sniper said,shooting at longer ranges with a 223 will challenge a shooters skill at reading the wind,but it's one of the cheapest cartridges to learn with.
Don't cheap out on your scope and rings if you want to see clearly at longer ranges,and be able to have an accurate optic that will repeat adjustments when you turn the turrets.
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BIG HINT: Check the barrel length of the test barrels in the reloading manuals. 223 Winchester is tested in 26-inch barrels, and 5.56 NATO in 20-inch barrels. Reloading manuals are a good way to figure out barrel lengths and twist rates.

So, if your going to shoot 223 go with the longer barrel.

223 and 5.56 aren't the same thing, even though they look a lot alike.
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Welcome to the FTF, from the swamp north of The Swamp.

Respectfully disagreeing with FrontierTCB, but a good bull barrel

will put your .223 in a tight pattern on target. If you hunt varmint,

or want to shoot tight groups, carefully consider a good bull barrel.


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