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Shootnscoot 07-30-2013 02:56 PM

.223/5.56 nato
 
What are some good recommendations for a bolt action in .223/5.56? I hear Ruger M77 is a good choice, but $900 is a bit more than I wanted to spend on a rifle. Are there any out there with comparable quality that's a little easier on the wallet?

GTX63 07-30-2013 03:03 PM

CZ 527. My BIL pops coyotes with his. Savage is another in the 110 FP model. Both are much cheaper than $900.

phideaux 07-30-2013 03:25 PM

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0c4f02b1.jpg

I just picked up a Savage 11 Trophy Hunter, in .223.
It somes with a Nikon Prostaff scope, and the Accu-trigger.
Around $500 for a tack driver WITH a good scope= good deal.

I just sighted it in last week, it is truly a tack driver.

Yeah I did a little paint job, before I ever shot it.:)



Jim

Shootnscoot 07-30-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phideaux (Post 1320215)
I just picked up a Savage 11 Trophy Hunter, in .223.
It somes with a Nikon Prostaff scope, and the Accu-trigger.
Around $500 for a tack driver WITH a good scope= good deal.

I just sighted it in last week, it is truly a tack driver.

Yeah I did a little paint job, before I ever shot it.:)



Jim

It looks pretty nice! How are your shot groups? I'd prefer not to have a scope. I'm more partial to iron sights. Does that rifle come without a scope? I'd imagine it'd be even cheaper without one.
BTW, that paint job is impressive. Definitely looks unique!

phideaux 07-30-2013 03:59 PM

Yes , you can get Savage Rifles in different configurations, without scopes.
With my eyesight being what it is, I need magnification at 100 yds to see a 3/4" bullseye.
BTW, thats what that gun shoots as a group at 100 yds ,after a bench rest zeroing , then shooting off bags, 3/4" consistently, using my own handloads with 55 gr bullets. With a good scope set at 6X power.

I am sure you can get close to that with GOOD factory ammo.
I dont think I could with iron sights.

Check out different packages at

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/models/

Jim

Tjurgensen 07-31-2013 04:06 AM

The savage makes a lot of great rifles and they have a ton of variety in their models I would also look at the howas they are great guns also they are also out of the box tack drivers and I think they are better built than the savages nothing against them though.

joshua87 07-31-2013 04:09 AM

Nice rifle where did you get it?

bntyhntr6975 07-31-2013 06:33 AM

Not many choices for a bolt action 5.56. Lots of good choices for .223 tho. Which are you wanting? No, they arent the same. A 5.56 chamber will safely fire .223, but not the other way around, unless you have a sloppy .223 chamber with plenty of lead in the throat. Why was this not pointed out from the get-go?

Shootnscoot 07-31-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bntyhntr6975 (Post 1321140)
Not many choices for a bolt action 5.56. Lots of good choices for .223 tho. Which are you wanting? No, they arent the same. A 5.56 chamber will safely fire .223, but not the other way around, unless you have a sloppy .223 chamber with plenty of lead in the throat. Why was this not pointed out from the get-go?

Thats a good point. I've been told by many that they are the same. If this is the case, I'd be more interested in .223 since there are more choices.

bntyhntr6975 07-31-2013 08:03 AM

Similar, yes. But not the same. .223s are fine in 5.56 chambers, but most .223 chambers are of tighter tolerance, and some 5.56 wont even go in, and some are tight. Only slight difference in the case, shoulder area. Also, most 5.56 chambers have very long throats so the longer bullets wont engage the rifling upon chambering. The 5.56 is not actually any 'hotter' than a .223, in most cases, but some think that the 5.56 is of greatly higher pressure and would blow up a rifle chambered in .223. The high pressure would be caused by a long bullet in the 5.56 being jammed into the rifling of a shorter throated .223 chamber. Im sure there will be disputes regarding some of this, so please, look it up first.


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