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Old 11-24-2009, 12:55 AM   #1
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overall for hunting would a 223 or 243 be better for hunting like deer, bear, squirrel, coyote, fox, and such. my dad has a 243 but we were wondering if a 223 would be beter

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Old 11-24-2009, 01:21 AM   #2
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i don't know if a .223 will kill a deer and i wouldn't try it on a bear either.

i think you need a .243 or higher for up to deer. i would get something bigger though. i'm partial to the .270 or .30-06 rounds, but other people have their favorites.

for bears you will need something even bigger than that.

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The 223 in most states is not legal to hunt big game with. Most of the bullets are made for varmints the bullets are built to dump all its energy in to a small target. You can get some heavy hunting bullets but you need special twist rates which means custom barrels or custom guns $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

The 243 while a great cartridge is not at all adiquite for bear unless it is a cub. For me you need to run at least 100 gr for deer. Deer or speed goat (prong horn) would be about the biggest animals I would hunt with a 243.

If you are looking for a more all around cartridge I would look at a 25-06 or a 260 rem. You can get plenty of bullet selection out of these that will cover all the game your looking to hunt.

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is the 25-06 or 260 good for like wooded areas and how is the ammo is it pretty expensive

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BTW, You should post your question in one area. Double posting really is not necessary. So now bear is on the Menu. If you want a grey squirrel/ fox round a .22WMR or .17HMR will work very well, .22lr at 50 yard ranges. Whitetail and bear, a .260 would work, but I would lean towards a 6.5x55 or 7mm-08 if you are starting out and are recoil sensitive, both are excellent rounds. You are talking small game and medium/large game. The same rifle really won't do both. You may concider starting out w/ a .22lr/WMR/HMR for small game and move up once you become proficient. JP

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i have taken deer here in NY with a 243(100gr)it does take deer ,but is kinda on the edge of under powered .like the rest of these guys say i would consider jumping up 1 step.260,7mm08,25 06,even the 308.if the shot was perfect on a bear (perfect shots VERY seldom happen in real life) the 243 would bring down a 300 lb bear ,but i would be willing to bet you would lose some .also even though black bears very seldom become dangerous after the first shot (probably because of bigger rounds.LOL)it doesn't seem worth it to me. from right to left.22win mag,223,243,6.5 carcano,7mm08,30/30,308.i used cell phone so its a little blury.im a fool for firearms,have more of them then brains.



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Just out of curiosity, why limit yourself to those two cartridges? As others have pointed out, there are others that would be much better options.

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i have a 17 hrm that i use sometimes for squirrels an such but i want something bigger.

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is the 25-06 or 260 good for like wooded areas and how is the ammo is it pretty expensive
rifle ammo is all about the same really, the price difference comes from the company, I use Remington ammo, its pretty good and about one of the cheapest that you can find, at least here anyway, price does increase slightly when you get into the magnum rounds.
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Wasn't this questions just asked in another thread?

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