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Old 05-20-2014, 08:38 PM   #101
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My son has a Stevens in .223 and it's accounted for a lot of foxes around here out to 200+ yards using a 55gn Vmax.
Even though this thing was a cheap buy new it surprised me how well it shot once we found something it liked probably close enough to 1/2" groups at 100yds.

Foxes and Coyotes are very close to each other in structure and are thin skinned so if that's all your after then the .223 will do you well but I still reckon it's too light a calibre for deer but that's my opinion and what we have over here is a minimum calibre for deer of .243 for the lighter species like Hog and Fallow deer and .270 or there abouts for Red and Sambar deer.
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I had a CZ 527 American. Get the varmint model if you get one. Mine had a distinct dislike for 55 grain boat tails. It loved 45 grain bullets. Probably due to the 1:12 twist. I believe the varmint is 1:9. I would not buy a 223 with 1:12 twist again.
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Going for the odd?............I'm thinking .256 Win or 6mm TCU for my Contender carbine and yotes.

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Going for the odd?............I'm thinking .256 Win or 6mm TCU for my Contender carbine and yotes.
unless the OP is a reloader, neither of those two are practical for most shooters.

even some of the more common cartridges can be cost prohibative to shoot unless a person reloads for them.
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No, I wasn't suggesting that they were all inferior, yet the performance / fit and finish of some of the lesser expensive diffenetly shows. Now, I would not compare a CZ to a Browning or older Remington, Winchesters, or Marlins.
i have three Marlin X7's in 25-06, 7mm-08 and 308. they tend to perform just as accurately as my other more expensive Remington and Ruger bolt actions and as well as my father's older Winchester M70.

comparing the quality of the fit and finish to my M700's with synthetic stocks, i see no less in the level of quality, between them. even the Mossberg ATR100 i had was very well made and very accurate with handloads. comparing them in level of what is percieved as higher quality is purely subjective when doing so with a rifle that has nicely crafted walnut stock and highly polished blued metalwork. then that comparison is not on equal ground by any means.

so please explain where the performance or the fit and finish is to the point it shows.
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Uh, I was talking to the OP about odd stuff for MY rifle (since he was thinking .22 Hornet to be a bit different).

And...........I don't know of any serious varminter that shoots factory ammo.
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I've always wanted a 224 Texas trophy hunter... That's different :-)
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i have three Marlin X7's in 25-06, 7mm-08 and 308. they tend to perform just as accurately as my other more expensive Remington and Ruger bolt actions and as well as my father's older Winchester M70.

comparing the quality of the fit and finish to my M700's with synthetic stocks, i see no less in the level of quality, between them. even the Mossberg ATR100 i had was very well made and very accurate with handloads. comparing them in level of what is percieved as higher quality is purely subjective when doing so with a rifle that has nicely crafted walnut stock and highly polished blued metalwork. then that comparison is not on equal ground by any means.

so please explain where the performance or the fit and finish is to the point it shows.
First, the Marlin x7, based on the XL7 and the XS7, has a reputation as "a very accurate budget bolt action rifle" and well received by the shooting public. As far as the Mossberg ATR, again a "good budget rifle, with nice accuracy" Now, I am not wanting to talk trash about faults of anyone’s toys. So, I will leave the opinions about the bolt problems on the X7 to the people who have owned an X7 and have expressed those opinions. And I will do the same with the XTR on its feed issues and trigger assemblies.

The current quality issues that Remington has been working through (and Marlin) are, I personally believe, based in the management of these companies by their parent company, Freedom Group, and its business strategy.

You seem to be quite pleased with your Marlins and your Mossberg. Great, I am truly happy you find them to be exactly what you desire. I have shot the Marlin x7 in .270, and though seemed to have the accuracy to me, I did not like the light weight.
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Going for the odd?............I'm thinking .256 Win or 6mm TCU for my Contender carbine and yotes.
Those are odd rounds. I've heard of the .256 but not the 6mm. I know there are much more odd rounds than .22 Hornet but I don't really want something that odd in my collection right now. Perhaps I can own and reload for a real oddball cartridge in the future.
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I've always wanted a 224 Texas trophy hunter... That's different :-)
Now I've never heard of that round. How do you reload for it or get a rifle in that caliber?
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