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Old 02-23-2011, 04:08 AM   #21
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, i was just wondering about this, but all the work that would be going to get the kind of gun, and actally get to be good enough to use it is just not worth it to me. I guess ill stick with shooting trap and hopfully get a hangun soon

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Thanks for all the feedback guys, i was just wondering about this, but all the work that would be going to get the kind of gun, and actally get to be good enough to use it is just not worth it to me. I guess ill stick with shooting trap and hopfully get a hangun soon
Trap and skeet shooting is all good.
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We have 1,800 yds out on the desert public lands. Targets are heavy steel gongs. We have a 1,000 yd paper range. Many of the guys shoot the big 50s. I have found the M1 Garand is OK at 800 yds. The AR15 HB 1-9 shooting a 62grs OK at 800 yds. I have a tuned K31 with an 18X power scope which works at 1,000 yds. My Elk rifle an old 77 cal. .338 WCF is very good at 1,000 yds with 250 gr bullets.

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No pictures. But if you are ever going west on I-80 its 7 miles north of I-80 turn north at the Kemmer exit go 7 mile to the green cattle guard marked Public Lands. Help yourself its your property for miles and miles. It is 15 miles east of the Wyoming Utah Border. Good Luck.

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A standard bulls eye target at camp parry for 1000 yards is 3 feet in dia. keep that in mind. If you attend a Camp Parry shoot you just might find a few Marines shooting with M1 Grande's chambered in 30-06, without a scope.

Also one of the top competition shooters uses a 6.5 Creedmoor which is a 6mm/243 round on steroids. He is sponsored by Horanady. Here is a good read on the 6.5 Creedmoor.

6.5 Creedmoor - .260 Done Right?

Most want something fancy or a big cal. to impress rather then something that will do the job and is accurate. When they miss with the fancy guns then they blame it on the scope or the rifle instead of their own abilities.

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Long ways away for me, but maybe one day i will find my self out that way sometime. We are always traveling for race season.

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Thanks for all the feedback guys, i was just wondering about this, but all the work that would be going to get the kind of gun, and actally get to be good enough to use it is just not worth it to me. I guess ill stick with shooting trap and hopfully get a hangun soon

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, sweet youth..............wanting instant gratification for no sweat or tears, or effort put forth. gun and sniper video games hype'em up, and it gets equated to reality.

i didn't want to post originally, because i've seen it before.........this kid has delusions of grandeur, he wants the rifle and scope to do ALL the work.

you get out of your rifle, what you put into it. time @ the range!
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Since you have decided to nix the idea of shooting 1000 yards why don't you take that little 243 and start shooting at 300 yards? Once you feel comfortable with that move to 400, then to 500 and so on. This is really the only way that you will be able to shoot 1000 yards eventually. It takes a lot of work and time behind a trigger to shoot that far accurately. Once you hit that level then you can look into building a rifle for what you want because now you know what it takes. Right now I'm working on 200 yards, but that's where my comfort level is right now.

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Depends on how accurate you want to be at 1,000 yards. The 30-338 was specifically developed for 1,000 yard bench rest.

I have one in a Ruger #1 with a Douglas medium weight premium barrel.

I have chronographed a 190 grain Sierra MatchKing boat tail at 2850 feet per second with IMR 4831 powder. When you shoot 1,000 yards, you need to take into account trajectory and wind drift - both being equal problems.

The 190 grain boat tail has a good ballistic coefficient (.553 above 2100 fps). The 200 grain MatchKing boat tail is .565 at 2100 fps and above, but you can't get the same speed out of it, and you're trading trajectory for just slightly better wind drift performance. In my rifle, the 190 grain boat tail provides the best combination of trajectory and wind drift performance.

No matter what caliber you choose, you're going to have to do some work to find the best bullet / load combination.

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the springfield 1903 30-06 was issued with 2825yard graduated open sights...

soldiers of the time were expected to utilize sights at that range in order to lob rifle bullets into enemy positions. if you want an interesting read on long range shooting go look up ww1 battle rifles and their uses.

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