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Old 08-03-2013, 09:13 PM   #1
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Just got a M&P 40 and only have about 80 rounds thru it. The trigger pull is long and strong.

Who has had a trigger job done and how much are they really worth? Who does good work? Will Smith & Wesson do it?



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Just got a M&P 40 and only have about 80 rounds thru it. The trigger pull is long and strong.

Who has had a trigger job done and how much are they really worth? Who does good work? Will Smith & Wesson do it?
A lot of people go with Apex trigger kits. I have an M&P9c without anything done to the trigger, but I only have around 300-400 rounds through it. I've heard from a lot of M&P owners the triggers get nicer when around 1000 rounds have been through them. I'm sure its actually significantly less than that, but 1000 is just a nice even number.


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JW's right, the M&P trigger will work itself in. A lot of guys advocate the Apex kit. The caveat with that is, should you ever have to use your piece in a SD situation and wind up in court, the prosecutor or Mr. Bad Guy's lawyer can use any mods performed on your gun as proof you are a gunslinger, out looking for trouble. There are those in this forum who will poo-poo that, but it's a fact of life depending where you live.
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JW's right, the M&P trigger will work itself in. A lot of guys advocate the Apex kit. The caveat with that is, should you ever have to use your piece in a SD situation and wind up in court, the prosecutor or Mr. Bad Guy's lawyer can use any mods performed on your gun as proof you are a gunslinger, out looking for trouble. There are those in this forum who will poo-poo that, but it's a fact of life depending where you live.
False and a total urban myth. Remember, not everything you read on the internet is true. There is no case law or precedence ANYWHERE in ANY court showing modifications to a gun can be used against you. I've installed countless Apex kits into M&P pistols with awesome results for customers. Do it and thank me later.
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False and a total urban myth. Remember, not everything you read on the internet is true. There is no case law or precedence ANYWHERE in ANY court showing modifications to a gun can be used against you. I've installed countless Apex kits into M&P pistols with awesome results for customers. Do it and thank me later.
I took my CCW class at a shooting range ran by local police officers. My instructor told us to never carry a gun with a trigger job. The Missouri lawyer in the video we watched said the same thing. They also said never use reloads in your EDC.
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I took my CCW class at a shooting range ran by local police officers. My instructor told us to never carry a gun with a trigger job. The Missouri lawyer in the video we watched said the same thing. They also said never use reloads in your EDC.
I did the Apex trigger kit and love it. I would think there is nothing they can legally do to you as long as the trigger modification is 100% legal, which it is. It doesn't convert the gun to full-auto or burst, just lightens the pull a little.
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I did the Apex trigger kit and love it. I would think there is nothing they can legally do to you as long as the trigger modification is 100% legal, which it is. It doesn't convert the gun to full-auto or burst, just lightens the pull a little.
I know it's legal and I have no problem with someone doing any kind of mods to their firearm. The instructor was just saying it may look bad to a jury If you shot someone in a self defense situation. Someone on a jury that knows nothing about firearms and has never fired a gun could be easily convinced by a lawyer that you are just looking for trouble. I get called into jury duty every three years and I get picked every time. I've seen how easily some jurors are persuaded. I want to get the apex trigger kit on my SD9. It's not my EDC, just a home defense/plinking gun.
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WOW - lots of pros and cons.

I was just thinking about the trigger job for the benefit of target shooting as that is (at this time) all that I do. Pulling a stiff and long draw trigger does not improve accuracy.

I know from reading that good attorneys will use anything they can if it seems like it will work in their favor to win their case. Even the possibility of comments and signature statements from a forum like this - may contain comments that may be used against you.

Thanks for the feedback.

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If your attorney allows evidence like this to be used against you, you need a different attorney. One that doesn't suck.

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I am back to considering a trigger kit for an M&P .40 full size. From this link, who can explain the difference between these two kits - #1 & #3 - for improved trigger performance?

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/trigger-group-parts/performance-enhancing-kits/s-w-m-p-action-enhancement-components-prod41314.aspx

Competition Kit:
100-006-035WB

Duty Carry Kit:
100-006-039WB



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