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Old 06-26-2013, 06:58 PM   #11
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Thanks Jon.

I think if I ever bought and used a ransom rest, it would just depress me knowing how bad my shooting actually is.

I mean, it's not like you will ever say to a bad guy, "Could you wait a moment while I set up my ransom rest? Now, step back a few feet. OK, there, now ... hold it....hold it...say 'cheese!" ."
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If the video is just a test of combat effective accuracy being good enough to score lethal hits, then it does that.
That was what I thought he stated the video to be about.
Bingo!!!

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Who cares? You claim to be busting myths here. Apparently I mistakenly thought it would have been you. Banging away at a human sized target and claiming to have settled the M9 accuracy issue is hardly myth busting.
Dude.....

The myth is that the M9 / 92 is inherently crap as a combat sidearm.

OK, fine...that means, to me, that it can't hit beans.

So, I stepped out 25 yards and put rounds into a torso target, somewhat rapidly.

If you watch the video you'll see said rounds hitting center mass and what is more, grouping pretty well around the pumping station.

That pretty much tells me it is fine as a combat sidearm.

Not sure what part of that you don't understand, but...there you go.

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9mm is not any less accurate than .45 inherently. At pistol ranges wind isn't going to have a huge effect. Usually the wind will have more effect on the shooter with their hands extended in the wind. In service pistol matches I've seen Beretta and Sig pistols do very well. Where a 1911 gets its advantages is in the shorter lighter trigger travel and pull, which puts less influence on the pistol. In bullseye shooting, another advantage a .45 has is in the actual diameter of the bullet. With it being fatter it has a better chance of breaking a higher scoring ring even though the centers of a 9mm or .45 may hit with their center at the same point on a paper target.

Check out a Sig 210 or a Smith & Wesson 952 if you want a more fair comparison to a 1911.


There's nothing quite as nice as a 1911 single action trigger that has been custom tuned. One of my 1911s has custom trigger work on it and it breaks right at 2.5 pounds, so cleanly and so crisply it just moves me to big girlie tears everytime.

OK, well, maybe not, but you get the picture.
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You will usually find the guy shooting the pistol is inaccurate not the pistol. I have shot the beretta at the range and have found it to be accurate. PS it is a service pistol not a target pistol.
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Manta, yes, I've noticed that.

And thanks for that VERY wise comment about it being a service pistol.

Some folks get really, really, REALLY upset by phrases such as "service pistol" and "combat accurate."

Honestly, I just don't know what to do for them, other than put the pacifier back in their mouths and pat them on the head.

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My father bought me a 92 back in 1990. I wanted the gun after watching all those late 80s action movies. Living in Germany, the gun came from the Italian factory. It was a fun gun to shoot, accurate, high quality and a unique design for that time. Never had a FTF. The only problem with the gun is the location of the safety. There was reports that troops were accidentally engaging the safety due to large gloves or big hands. I have seen it happen at the range a few times myself. Never heard troops complain about accuracy. I also observe them throughout the years qualifying at the range with positive results. It is a service pistol that does the job it was meant to do. Not to shoot dimes at 25 yards, but to hit center mass.

Now, I have heard reports about the questionable quality control of the M9, especially during the 90s in the desert. But this is a different topic on the gun. Is this another "myth" to examine? I did find this report on the slides. Baretta and the Army seem to blame each other...

http://www.thegunzone.com/m9-a.html

I have heard that the US factory quality is less then the Italian factory. Another myth? I know my Italian made 92 never had a slide failure, even with the NATO ammo. I ended up selling my gun 5 or 6 years later, but it was still running perfectly.
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I agree re. the odd placement and operation of the safety. Up is down and down is up.

I've sold a lot of my firearms, swapping them in and out for the fun of shooting a lot of different firearms.

The Beretta 92A1 is still in my gun safe and I'm loving it.
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[QUOTE=Amsdorf;1287487]

And thanks for that VERY wise comment about it being a service pistol.

Some folks get really, really, REALLY upset by phrases such as "service pistol" and "combat accurate." [/ QUOTE]

I don't know about everybody else, but isn't some of the fun

in shooting competition specifically using standard "service" arms ?

Super-accurate, and custom builds are fine, but, IMO, they remove a

lot of the challenge and pleasure inherent to shooting.

Case in point: My scoped Ruger can easily drive tacks at 25 yards.

But there's no fun in it. It's great trying to tighten up groups at

100 yards, tho.

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Now, I have heard reports about the questionable quality control of the M9, especially during the 90s in the desert. But this is a different topic on the gun. Is this another "myth" to examine? I did find this report on the slides. Baretta and the Army seem to blame each other...

http://www.thegunzone.com/m9-a.html

I have heard that the US factory quality is less then the Italian factory. Another myth? I know my Italian made 92 never had a slide failure, even with the NATO ammo. I ended up selling my gun 5 or 6 years later, but it was still running perfectly.
some of the early issue m9 were prone to slides leaving the guns in a rearward direction it was also a problem with all civvy 92f and earlier versions. the fs version fixed that design flaw

no truth at all in difference in quality.
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