Originally Posted by Mercator
This is an oldish thread, but I just now noticed it.
For some reason there is no love for the 92F/M9. Urban lore: Not too accurate - false. The slide is prone to cracking - false. Italian ones are better than U.S. - false. The Army was stupid to switch - false. It is an excellent all-around traditional full size DA/SA combat pistol. It can compete with any such pistol in the same class.
Compaired to a 1911 ill take the 1911 for accuracy. I own both.
First issue runs slides cracked and would shoot rearwards right off the frame into the shooter's face causing injury.
The military was stupid to switch. They went from a decades reliable design that both men and women of almost any handsize could use well to a pistol that is very difficult for people with smaller hands to hold operate and shoot well. Seen it for myself in actual use. I was part of the switch over and troops that had smaller hands preferred the 1911 as it was easier to use and hit with.
In its class of da guns the m9 is excellent but its outclassed by the 1911 as a combat issue goto war handgun.
I carry a m9 as a ccw and i carry a 1911 as a ccw interchanging from time to time for variety. Unlike the military im not restricted to fmj rounds in the 9mm which is the weakpoint in the discussion. In terms of fmj the 45acp is a big big big winner in effectiveness. Only when you use restricted to militiary hollowpoints of modern design does the 9mm become an effective defense round.
Thats the real issue in the 1911 being stupidly replaced by the m9
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