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tampamiketaylor 01-29-2013 02:57 AM

Sig 357 p226 or new 1911 nightmare?
 
Hey guys

I'd like your input on a p226 or 1911 nightmare in 357sig cal. Not really looking for a concealed gun and primarily accuracy and reliability. Let me know what you think

Mike

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SigArmored 01-29-2013 03:43 AM

I gotta say that I love shooting the 357. When I can afford it.I'm really glad I bought my P226 in 40. and bought the conversion barrels in 9 and 357.It gave me the ability to shoot what ever my little heart desires.You will be able to do the same with a 357. P226 but I don't know about the 1911.Just what little experience I have hope it helps.

Spazzmodicus 01-29-2013 01:08 PM

More negligent discharges occur with 1911's than with 226's by reason of having a saftey lever that needs to be activated, or people holstering "cocked and locked" and then knock the safety into the fire position with the edge of the holster when drawing or holstering.

Sigs are safer imho in that your 'safety' is your trigger finger. Simply keep your finger off the trigger and out of the trigger guard until ready to fire. There is the additional safety of the double-action first shot.

One of the cool aspects of the .357 Sig round in my experience is the flat trajectory the bullet flies with and accuracy. Very accurate round.

Between the .357 Sig and .45acp you're gonna' be spending $$ but you could always do as somebody else mentioned and pick up a 9mm conversion for $250 or less on the used market, or around $300 or more new, and have two guns for the price of one.

tampamiketaylor 01-29-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SigArmored (Post 1114461)
I gotta say that I love shooting the 357. When I can afford it.I'm really glad I bought my P226 in 40. and bought the conversion barrels in 9 and 357.It gave me the ability to shoot what ever my little heart desires.You will be able to do the same with a 357. P226 but I don't know about the 1911.Just what little experience I have hope it helps.

Good point, I do not think the 1911 has the conversion to other cals so that would def be a benefit of the p226.

tampamiketaylor 01-29-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spazzmodicus (Post 1114782)
More negligent discharges occur with 1911's than with 226's by reason of having a saftey lever that needs to be activated, or people holstering "cocked and locked" and then knock the safety into the fire position with the edge of the holster.

Sigs are

Yeah, I heard about that concern on youtube and some issues. So far 2 + for p226. Thank you!

Spazzmodicus 01-29-2013 01:23 PM

I accidently sent the previous response before finishing it. There's more there now. :)

tampamiketaylor 01-29-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tampamiketaylor (Post 1114788)
Yeah, I heard about that concern on youtube and some issues. So far 2 + for p226. Thank you!

Thanks! yeah, the more I read about the Sig357 the more I think it. I was set on the P226 in sig 357 cal but found out that the new 1911 nightmare has 357sig now. Seems with the possible failures on the 1911 new platform I am leaning back on the p226.

Thx,
Mike

Spazzmodicus 01-29-2013 04:46 PM

Plus, the Navy Seals use 226's, not 1911's. :)

Tackleberry1 01-29-2013 05:32 PM

Several operations groups still use 1911's and some also use the 226.

I've owned and carried both platforms. They are both good platforms. There is nothing about a 1911 that makes it any more or less inherently safe than a 226.

I would suggest you shoot them both if possible. While the 226 is a good gun, NOTHING on planet earth shoots like a quality 1911. It is the finest SA trigger available on a factory gun and it's handling characteristics are second to none.

Good Luck and be safe.

Tack

Overkill0084 01-29-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spazzmodicus (Post 1114782)
More negligent discharges occur with 1911's than with 226's by reason of having a saftey lever that needs to be activated, or people holstering "cocked and locked" and then knock the safety into the fire position with the edge of the holster when drawing or holstering.

Sigs are safer imho in that your 'safety' is your trigger finger. Simply keep your finger off the trigger and out of the trigger guard until ready to fire. There is the additional safety of the double-action first shot.

One of the cool aspects of the .357 Sig round in my experience is the flat trajectory the bullet flies with and accuracy. Very accurate round.

Between the .357 Sig and .45acp you're gonna' be spending $$ but you could always do as somebody else mentioned and pick up a 9mm conversion for $250 or less on the used market, or around $300 or more new, and have two guns for the price of one.


The reason there are more NGs with 1911s? Because there has to be 20 times the number of 1911s in the world as opposed to Sig 226s. It's like saying that because there are many times more fatal traffic fatalities in GM vehicles compared to say, Porsche. Then GM obviously builds unsafe vehicles. :rolleyes: Yeah that must be it.
Serviceable 1911s are only "unsafe" if handled by careless or untrained people. Pretty much the same as any other pistol. It's simple math, it you have 10 times as many people with a specific type of pistol vs. another, there is 10 times the chance something stupid will occur.
Say...where do you come down on Glock Leg?

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Originally Posted by Spazzmodicus (Post 1114978)
Plus, the Navy Seals use 226's, not 1911's. :)

Navy SEALs use pretty much whatever they want, including the SIGs. The Marines just ordered a buttload of new Colt 1911s. Which proves exactly ...well, not a whole helluva lot. Aside from the obvious fact that people who know, still consider the 1911 viable in today's wartime environment.


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