[fa35jsf]

Originally Posted by fmj

Know a guy here in town had his class III stuff as secure as possible...top end safe, bolted to concrete etc...a recip. saw a heavy duty tow strap and a 1 ton pickup made short work of his safety measures. They simply cut a hole in the side of the house, attached one end of the strap to the safe, the other to the hitch of the truck and away they went.

That really sucks for your friend. I can't imagine the sort of headache that would cause, especially trying to explain to the police how a bunch of class 3 weapons ended up on the street.

[collector_rob]

I have a Graffunder B7248. I bought it about 6 years ago. Then it was $4000.00 delivered from my local security store.
http://www.graffundersafes.com/products/safes-weapon.html

It is very well made. It weighs 2340 lbs empty. The body is made of plate steel not sheet metal. Here is a picture of the thickness of the door.



Check out the pics of a B series safe after a fire.

http://www.graffundersafes.com/gallery_images.html?galleryid=3

[fmj]

Originally Posted by fa35jsf

That really sucks for your friend. I can't imagine the sort of headache that would cause, especially trying to explain to the police how a bunch of class 3 weapons ended up on the street.

Yep, good news is he got his property back, in relatively short order, a little worse for wear, but it came home. It seems "the powers that be" take the disappearance of class III weaponry a little more serious than your run of the mill burglary. The point being "security" is a myth.

again my advice is your best course of action is to not soley rely on a safe, but to have layers of protection in place.

Hell, i had motorcycles disappear from a "securely" locked garage....

[fa35jsf]

Oh I bet they take that seriously. It's good that he got it all back. I was thinking also of some kind of hidden camera system watching over my safe. You know, to hopefully arch the would be robbers on tape hopefully with a nice face picture to assist police. Anybody else do something similar?

[fmj]

Originally Posted by fa35jsf

Oh I bet they take that seriously. It's good that he got it all back. I was thinking also of some kind of hidden camera system watching over my safe. You know, to hopefully arch the would be robbers on tape hopefully with a nice face picture to assist police. Anybody else do something similar?

Its a great idea....just another level of security. The more the better.

[mrm14]

http://www.hallsafe.com/main.html

[95sniper]

How did the burglars know your buddy had guns in his house? Let alone were the safe was... The best thing is to keep your safe hard to find

[fmj]

Originally Posted by 95sniper

How did the burglars know your buddy had guns in his house? Let alone were the safe was... The best thing is to keep your safe hard to find

most crime (over 90% i would guess...dont have exact stat) is committed by someone you know....

[95sniper]

Originally Posted by fmj

most crime (over 90% i would guess...dont have exact stat) is committed by someone you know....

I understand that, you really have to be careful about telling or showing people what you have.

[fmj]

Originally Posted by 95sniper

I understand that, you really have to be careful about telling or showing people what you have.

yep, the best policy is, unless your in business, its best to not advertise.

Thats one of the #1 security measures around here...but even then...

LEVELS of security and many of them!