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IGETEVEN 07-09-2009 03:53 AM

Is Your Gun a Weapon or a Talisman?
 
It is my belief that 95% of people who carry guns are not prepared to survive a violent assault (including police officers). While this may offend a lot of carriers, and maybe some police officers, I feel its important to address.

So I ask, is your gun truly a weapon to you or a talisman that will hopefully ward off those who will bring you harm?

To answer this question properly, I have come up with a series of ten questions with sub-questions. They are not all-encompassing but should give you some ideas to ponder if you are really interested in self-defense and not just busting caps (as fun as that is). There are other issues such as first aid and other issues, but I think this list does a pretty good job questioning the basics of your plan.

1) Do you train realistically with the gun and gear you actually carry with the clothes you actually wear? What does "realistic" mean to you?

2) Will your gear and gun hold up under the stress of a physical encounter? How do you know?

3) Do you regularly train against a live, resisting opponent?

4) Could you physically hold up against an all-out assault from a determined adversary? How do you know?

5) Do you actively train your mind for violent conflict? How?

6) Do you carry less-lethal options when you carry your gun? Have you practiced regularly with them?

7) Do you EVER go anywhere unarmed where you are not legally prohibited from doing so?

8) Have you assessed how long it would take you to get to your weapons from any point in your home? Have you checked it against entry from various points in your home?

9) If you have spouses/significant others or children, have you trained them in how to respond if it all goes down? Would they reproduce this behavior if you asked them to do it RIGHT THIS MINUTE?

10) Do you become task-fixated in public places? Balancing the check book in the parking lot? Talking or texting on the cell phone while walking across the parking lot? Be honest with yourself.

It doesn't matter if you do all of these things or none of these things. What is important is that you understand where you stand and decide what you want to be.

Nothing we write on a keyboard will save us, and I mention again, this posting is not meant to offend, but mainly to get people to start thinking.

Jack

CA357 07-09-2009 04:14 AM

Good questions

I keep a handgun with me at home. It's also in hand when I open the door. There's a 1911 on the desk as I write this. ;) I exercise and try to keep in shape. I have no qualms about shooting an attacker whatsoever. I will not engage in a wrestling match or fistfight.

I am a proponent of Colonel Jeff Cooper and Massad Ayoob's philosophy.

I am an old veteran and served in the Air Force. I was not in any type of combat unit, I was a Ramp Rat. (which wasn't a feather merchant job)

However, I still have my balls and will not be trifled with.

I do my best not to sound like some internet ninja, because I'm not. I'm an American, a Vet and a man. I will do my best.

IGETEVEN 07-09-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CA357 (Post 126610)
However, I still have my balls and will not be trifled with.

I do my best not to sound like some internet ninja, because I'm not. I'm an American, a Vet and a man. I will do my best.

Excellent brother, excellent! :)

RL357Mag 07-09-2009 06:37 PM

I'm a New Yorker....and a vet, but being a NY'er I had more "situational awareness" before I even joined the military....if you've ever spent time in NYC you'll know what I mean...

matt g 07-09-2009 07:09 PM

If I'm carrying and the pistol clears leather, something/someone is going to die. There is no other reason to carry, ever.

c3shooter 07-09-2009 07:32 PM

The talisman is the St Barbara's medal on my dog tags.

The one in the holster is the weapon.


Several years back, was taking grandmunchkin and her friend (age 6) out for ice cream. Was putting on my jacket, and little girl noticed my revolver on my belt. She asked granddaughter "Why does your grampa have a gun?" Little girl looked at me, looked at her friend, and said "Silly! 'Cause he's the GROWNUP!"

That seems to about cover it.

CA357 07-09-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 126872)
The talisman is the St Barbara's medal on my dog tags.

The one in the holster is the weapon.


Several years back, was taking grandmunchkin and her friend (age 6) out for ice cream. Was putting on my jacket, and little girl noticed my revolver on my belt. She asked granddaughter "Why does your grampa have a gun?" Little girl looked at me, looked at her friend, and said "Silly! 'Cause he's the GROWNUP!"
That seems to about cover it.

Great stuff and a smart grandchild. :D

gorknoids 07-10-2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 126872)
The talisman is the St Barbara's medal on my dog tags.

The one in the holster is the weapon.


Several years back, was taking grandmunchkin and her friend (age 6) out for ice cream. Was putting on my jacket, and little girl noticed my revolver on my belt. She asked granddaughter "Why does your grampa have a gun?" Little girl looked at me, looked at her friend, and said "Silly! 'Cause he's the GROWNUP!"

That seems to about cover it.

Another devotee of Santa Barbara!
No, we haven't held emergency drills, and I haven't grappled over a weapon lately. I fully expect that when I finally get to my firearm in a full-blown assault, I'm going to already be bleeding and badly injured due to a blind-side attack consisting of more than one person. Seriously, crooks know better than to walk up to you with a bullhorn announcing their intentions. Serious muggers are artists.
My concern is the pissed-off doper that causes a wreck and decides to blame it on me, which, of course, must include my azz-kicking for participating in the demolition of his stolen car. Standing in line at the store when someone decides that he or she can have anything they want because they have a gun. Being attacked by a domestic dog, and it not ending in a quick bite and immediate retreat. I don't live in a high-crime area, but I travel to some. On the road, there are no crime stats printed on the cars, so you never know what will come of the slightest fender-bender.

AR762 07-10-2009 02:04 AM

I'm not sure what I am. I grew up on the West Side of Cleveland, I was always around my own kind.

Then Busing started in 1980. When I started the fifth grade, I was sent to the east side, they didn't like us being there, we where refered to as white dogs, how do I know,you may ask?, because they called us it to our faces.

Whenever we went to the bathroom, we had to go in groups of atleast five, I'm not kidding, or we would get the crap kicked out of us. This went on through the 12th grade. In 1988 the year I graduated, we always had LEO's and School Security but, teacher's were still thrown down steps, and I've heard it has gotten a whole lot worse there. So, why do I bring this up?

I brought this up because, I had to learn to survive at an early age.

(1). You use every glass door, pictures with a glass covering, vending machines with glass front as a mirror, to see who's behind you.

(2). Look for shadows moving ahead and around you.

(3). Listen to what your ears are telling you.

(4). Pay attention to your gut feelings.

(5). Always and I do mean always pay attention to your surroundings. Always walk with your head up. You don't see theats in the side walk it's self, and if your worried about tripping, then learn to pickup your feet when you walk.

(6). Learn your area, even if you have to drive past the first time, to see what you need to know, if you get into trouble.

So, do I think I'm prepared? You never know until your tested. Would I drop the hammer if needed. I'm only tring to stop the threat so, stop moving.

chopkick 07-10-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CA357 (Post 126610)
Good questions

I keep a handgun with me at home. It's also in hand when I open the door. There's a 1911 on the desk as I write this. ;) I exercise and try to keep in shape. I have no qualms about shooting an attacker whatsoever. I will not engage in a wrestling match or fistfight.

I am a proponent of Colonel Jeff Cooper and Massad Ayoob's philosophy.

I am an old veteran and served in the Air Force. I was not in any type of combat unit, I was a Ramp Rat. (which wasn't a feather merchant job)

However, I still have my balls and will not be trifled with.

I do my best not to sound like some internet ninja, because I'm not. I'm an American, a Vet and a man. I will do my best.

Perfect! +100
My job dictates that I train and be prepared. From my presence to my verbal skills, from my awareness to my fists, from my flashlight to my firearm, I am as ready as I can possibly be.
I am constantly running different scenarios through my mind in anticipation of something going haywire. I pray that it never does but I believe I am ready. To many precious lives depend on it.


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