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Old 06-03-2013, 09:18 PM   #21
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Probably just me then I would rather stop a confrontation with a warning shot if possible, maybe I am a bit soft for not wanting to kill someone if I can avoid it.
No... your just a bit ignorant for assuming any of us would would "prefer" to kill anyone.

I think we'd all love the option of a "warning shot"... unfortunately, in most US jurisdictions, it's ILLEGAL to discharge a firearm for ANY reason other than IMMINENT threat of great bodily injury or harm... and "warning shots" have been used to legally ensnare more than one decent citizen who was reluctant to simply shoot the bad guy.

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Oh ok I'll drag em in I was hoping to avoid the mess.

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Oh ok I'll drag em in I was hoping to avoid the mess.
When I was in High School, the local Sheriff came by to talk to us about some relevant issues, window tint & speeding & alcohol in our cars, and also mentioned that in a home defense shooting we should never move the body ourselves and that if the body happened to end up on the porch he or his deputies would help the homeowner drag it inside for the photos.

I liked that Sheriff; his son taught our PE class how to pick his dad's duty cuffs. This was the next county over where I attended school; I was always wishing that Sheriff covered both counties.
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Under the castle doctrine you can legal shoot any person who has unlawfully entered your home. But this person can't be on your porch and doorstep they have to actually cross the threshold and be inside your home.
The Castle Doctrine is applied differently with different requirements in different states. They're not all the same by a long shot. It wasn't until 5 or so years ago that the duty to retreat was removed from Florida statute. This is why so many of us preach to know your local statutes. What works for me here in Florida could be a life felony in other states.
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No... your just a bit ignorant for assuming any of us would would "prefer" to kill anyone.

I think we'd all love the option of a "warning shot"... unfortunately, in most US jurisdictions, it's ILLEGAL to discharge a firearm for ANY reason other than IMMINENT threat of great bodily injury or harm... and "warning shots" have been used to legally ensnare more than one decent citizen who was reluctant to simply shoot the bad guy.

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Tack, I hate to say it, but I think there are a few here that would get off on it. Heck, one of our mods stated in this very thread that the only warning shot should have been right between the eyes. That sounds like an intent to kill to me, and not a desire to stop the intruder.
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Probably just me then I would rather stop a confrontation with a warning shot if possible, maybe I am a bit soft for not wanting to kill someone if I can avoid it.
every state in the union here has strict laws against unlawful discharge of firearms. it is illegal to discharge a firearm for a "warning shot" in every state of the US. the reason it is illegal is because if you feel the need to shoot in a random direction the situation did not call for use of deadly force to begin with... while the article says it poorly and stupidly discharging a firearm into the air or ground in a uncontrolled manner can and does have deadly consequences for innocent people.

a sample of shooting into the air resulting in death:

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10-year-old struck in New Year's celebratory shooting dies

Girl had been in critical condition in Delaware after Cecil County incident

Ten-year-old Aaliyah Boyer died from injuries suffered New… (Gene Sweeney Jr., Baltimore…)

January 03, 2013|By Justin George, The Baltimore Sun


ELKTON — — Aaliyah Boyer had hoped to watch the New Year's ball drop on TV, but when she learned she had missed the stroke of midnight by 32 seconds, she returned to the front yard with her friends to watch her neighbors light fireworks.

Nearby, someone apparently fired a gun into the air to add to the celebration. Amid the jubilation, the 10-year-old fell to the ground, the warmth and color draining from her body after she was hit by a falling bullet. Her family initially thought that she had fainted, but the wound would prove fatal.
there are a LOT of cases of this happening. recently in saudi arabia 25 people were killed at a wedding from shooting into the air.

discharging a firearm into the air or ground for a "warning shot" puts people OTHER than the criminal in jeapordy!!! if you dont feel the need to shoot the bad guy (life isnt in immediate threat) then presentation of deadly force may be all that is needed. there is NEVER The need to fire stupidly into the sky.
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No... your just a bit ignorant for assuming any of us would would "prefer" to kill anyone.
So its that its illegal in all American states to fire a warning shot not that you think its a bad idea I see.

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I think we'd all love the option of a "warning shot"... unfortunately, in most US
jurisdictions, it's ILLEGAL to discharge a firearm for ANY reason other than IMMINENT threat of great bodily injury or harm...
Did you not see the post bellow.

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PS Obviously if you are not allowed by law to fire a warning shot then its not a good idea.
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When I was in High School, the local Sheriff came by to talk to us about some relevant issues, window tint & speeding & alcohol in our cars, and also mentioned that in a home defense shooting we should never move the body ourselves and that if the body happened to end up on the porch he or his deputies would help the homeowner drag it inside for the photos.
That's about the first thing I thought of when I read this story, too.

In my world, the local cop would have taken the vet aside and made sure his story was accurate before writing it down. He may have made a mistake in firing a shot but there is absolutely NO indication that he put anyone in danger when he did so. The good guys are supposed to work together.
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When I was in High School, the local Sheriff came by to talk to us about some relevant issues, window tint & speeding & alcohol in our cars, and also mentioned that in a home defense shooting we should never move the body ourselves and that if the body happened to end up on the porch he or his deputies would help the homeowner drag it inside for the photos.

I liked that Sheriff; his son taught our PE class how to pick his dad's duty cuffs. This was the next county over where I attended school; I was always wishing that Sheriff covered both counties.
I"m sure I would have liked him too! We need to get back to a little common sense if someone is breaking into my home uninvited well que sera sera.
I'm not a vigilante I only want me and mine to be treated with respect, if someone breaks in while I'm here, well actions have consequences. I only want to be left alone nothing more or less.
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Ammo is just too damn expensive to shoot twice now a days..

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