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Tackleberry1 06-03-2013 03:40 PM

Why we DON'T fire warning shots...EVER!
 
Here is a prime example of a good guy finding himself in trouble with the law after a wanted felon attempted to force entry in the Veterans home.

http://www.inquisitr.com/681593/man-arrested-for-firing-warning-shot-at-burglar/

It's also an excellent reason for all of us older "and I hope" wiser Vet's and gun owners to take these young guys under our wings and help educate them on the differences between patrolling a fire base in Afghanistan and defending your home... once your back home.

Sure hope he's cleared and get's his rifle back but we'll have see what the courts in Medford say about it.

Tack

mtmagwhenindout 06-03-2013 03:52 PM

He is a better person than me as soon as the crook entered my house they would have taken him out in a body bag

mtmagwhenindout 06-03-2013 03:54 PM

This is total BS He was defending his property and life now he being treated like a criminal next time don't spare the crooks life

trip286 06-03-2013 04:01 PM

But...but....uncle Joe says we should put two shots in the air, and then two through the door!!!

Tackleberry1 06-03-2013 04:15 PM

This story was on AM radio this morning so I pulled it up when I got into the office.

A. I don't think the perp ever gained entry
B. Homeowner told the perp he'd give him "a warning shot"... then did.
C. Responding LEO said the perp was walking away when the "warning shot" was fired.

I don't like the fact that an Afghanistan Vet is facing charges for running off a wanted felon anymore than the next guy... but firing a warning shot is a well know NO NO to anyone who's studied armed protection and has any knowledge of the law.

Long story short... If you not "scared for you life" enough to shoot the perp in order to make him stop whatever it is he's doing... you not in "enough danger" to justify pulling the trigger.

Like it or not... that's the law... and there are many good arguments for it, the biggest one being that even trained Veterans "short of shooting into a clearing barrel"... have NO idea where that round could end up.

Medford is a small town and I certainly hope the authorities show some leniency... but the bigger point here is that it's incumbent upon us to recognize these younger fellow's when we see them at the range, befriend them, and steer conversation beyond shot group size too the larger discussion of "appropriate use of force".

Tack

WebleyFosbery38 06-03-2013 04:42 PM

Boom, Boom, boom; no warning, just darkness...

trip286 06-03-2013 04:44 PM

Unless you count the clicking of a safety.

Jagermeister 06-03-2013 05:22 PM

I do not have a choice but to fire a warning shot. It is the law in Germany. First you give a verbal, then you give a warning shot, and finally you can shoot. I also have a right to shoot someone if they try to still my rifle while I am on the hunt. (think terrorism) But I have to follow the three steps. The problem is, I think I am dyslexic when follow steps. ;) Of course if the guy also has a gun, then all bets are off.

trip286 06-03-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jagermeister (Post 1266457)
I do not have a choice but to fire a warning shot. It is the law in Germany. First you give a verbal, then you give a warning shot, and finally you can shoot. I also have a right to shoot someone if they try to still my rifle while I am on the hunt. (think terrorism) But I have to follow the three steps. The problem is, I think I am dyslexic when follow steps. ;) Of course if the guy also has a gun, then all bets are off.

Really? That's a law there? I just didn't expect that.

Look at it this way, when you're running through the steps...

You think you're gonna land all your shots? Haha!!!

"See officer? That bullet hole in the wall? That was my warning shot."

They can't tell that it was a flyer ;)

(note: I don't advocate violating the law in any country. But....)

manta 06-03-2013 06:03 PM

You can get away with firing a warning shot here even with or strict firearms laws. Probably not a good idea unless a last resort before using it for real.

Quote:

Stormont Health Minister Edwin Poots fired warning shots after finding intruders on his land, it has emerged.

The DUP assembly member fired his legally-held shotgun last month.

A police spokesman confirmed they had "received a report of persons acting suspiciously in the grounds of a property in Lisburn" early on 6 June.


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