Originally Posted by Vikingdad
With all due respect Tack a great deal of what you say depends on where you are. Here where I live the militant OC advocates actually succeeded in getting our rights restricted even further in California. I do not decry the right to OC, but the way and in the locations where they were doing it here in California was wrong. That would not be true almost anywhere else in the nation though. There are some notable exceptions to what you say.
Viking... Yes, I understand it backfired in CA but let's be honest... It was never "really" a right in CA to begin with. Your state is a lost cause regarding 2A liberties.
CA is so over run with "takers"... IE... Permanent Democrat Voters, that nothing short of a Revolution followed with the executions of pretty much every State official could turn it around.
It's up to rest of the country to STOP federal bailout for California and allow it to disintegrate in complete violence and chaos as soon as possible.
If all 50 states serve as laboratories of democracy then your state "along with a handful of NE states, serve as examples of "what not to do.
Get out while you can partner... And do all you can to get every other self reliant gainfully employed individual you know to follow you.