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Old 08-13-2013, 07:37 PM   #221
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If you are going to carry unchambered you may as well not carry
That's just rubbish and hardly commenting on. But I will so armies police and others that carry a firearm unchambered that will take a few seconds to use may as well not be carrying is a ridiculous statement. Is there no point in the Israeli army carrying handguns because they carry in con three. I like to listen to different views some views are that carry with a round in the chamber some have different views but statements like you might aswell not carry if you haven't a round in the chamber just tells me the person doesn't know what they are talking about.

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well i guess i have the same arrogant attitude, because it pretty much mirrors my opinions on carrying unchambered as well. lack of proper training, lack of confidence in themselves or their chosen pistol. either way, carrying an unchambered pistol, is IMO about the same as not carrying.
How is it the same as not carrying. ? I will include that statement with the one at the top and give the same reply. And it is arrogant to say its your way or no way.

PS The instructor probably had a similar attitude.

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LANCASTER, Ohio (AP) - Police say an instructor at a central Ohio gun safety class has accidentally shot a student.

The Columbus Dispatch (http://bit.ly/19ZLcIt) reports 73-year-old Terry J. Dunlap Sr. was demonstrating a handgun at a training facility on Saturday when he fired a bullet that ricocheted off a desk and into the right arm of 26-year-old Michael Piemonte.

The student says the .38-caliber bullet hit him between his elbow and armpit. He says many of the students in the class were nurses who helped stabilize him before he was transported to a Columbus hospital
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That's just rubbish and hardly commenting on. But I will so armies police and others that carry a firearm unchambered that will take a few seconds to use may as well not be carrying is a ridiculous statement. Is there no point in the Israeli army carrying handguns because they carry in con three. I like to listen to different views some views are that carry with a round in the chamber some have different views but statements like you might aswell not carry if you haven't a round in the chamber just tells me the person doesn't know what they are talking about.

How is it the same as not carrying. ? I will include that statement with the one at the top and give the same reply. And it is arrogant to say its your way or no way.

PS The instructor probably had a similar attitude.
Accidents can happen wether the firearm is carried with one in the chamber or with an empty chamber. I've seen numerous videos of negligent discharged where the chamber was empty and the operator racked the slide thinking the magazine was empty and then pulled the trigger. Boom.

I know I always carry with one in the chamber and I prefer to have those seconds that it would take to pull back the slide in my favor. They might make the difference between life and death.

To each his own.
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That's just rubbish and hardly commenting on. But I will so armies police and others that carry a firearm unchambered that will take a few seconds to use may as well not be carrying is a ridiculous statement. Is there no point in the Israeli army carrying handguns because they carry in con three. I like to listen to different views some views are that carry with a round in the chamber some have different views but statements like you might aswell not carry if you haven't a round in the chamber just tells me the person doesn't know what they are talking about.

How is it the same as not carrying. ? I will include that statement with the one at the top and give the same reply. And it is arrogant to say its your way or no way.

PS The instructor probably had a similar attitude.
military is different than police or civilian use of firearms. to compare them is simply the wrong comparison, because many times when the military carries unchambered, it's because of orders. how many LEO's do you think carry unchambered? none that i know of. maybe in your country LEO's might carry unchambered, but here in the US, i don't think that happens.

to carry unchambered is simply, very similiar to not carrying in the first place. which while you are trying to get a round chambered, could give the BG an opportunity to remove your pistol from you, and in turn use it on you.

do you believe a BG is going to give you warning of an attack and allow you to chamber a round?

BTW i am very arrogant and conceited as well and have never denied such. if a person wants to carry unchambered and feels they are going to be lucky or good enough to get said pistol chambered in time to be of use, then so be it. i truly hope these people never find out the errors of their though process' and leave a widow behind and children without a father or mother. i pray they stay lucky enough that they never have to find out the hard way.
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Is it just me or is this getting just silly

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That was several pages ago...we've got round one in the pipe and now we're ready for ROUND TWO....ding...ding...ding
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In my opinion an instructor who accidently shoots a student in his class should no longer be an instructor. He forgot rule #1, keep your boogerhook off the bangswitch till youre ready to shoot.

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That was several pages ago...we've got round one in the pipe and now we're ready for ROUND TWO....ding...ding...ding
Agreed.........................
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I think everyone should just carry the gun in their hand because the seconds it takes you to get it out of the holster and pointed would give the BG time to be on you like white on rice. If you are not carrying it in your hand... you might as well not carry at all. This thread was entertaining for awhile.

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I think everyone should just carry the gun in their hand because the seconds it takes you to get it out of the holster and pointed would give the BG time to be on you like white on rice. If you are not carrying it in your hand... you might as well not carry at all. This thread was entertaining for awhile.
OK- ^^THIS ^^is a dam good stopping point
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It is!
Like I said earlier, if you carry a gun with an empty chamber and you survive it you will not ever do it again!!!
Let those who think it is 'cool' carry an empty chamber do so, as long as I don't have too!
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