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Old 08-12-2013, 09:43 PM   #211
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Four categories:
1. Police/Intelligence
2. Military/Royal guards
3. Criminal
4. Terrorist (IRA)

Wonder which one Manta is....
Ya I was thinking the same thing .
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I think this is why people carry unchambered weapons. Its cool to carry a gun but a loaded gun is dangerous. They have reached the age where they can legally purchase one and its a right of passage into adult hood but in their day to day lives, 99% of the time they will not be placed in a life or death situation. An unloaded gun makes you a victim and adds another firearm to the criminal network.

I can only think that most people who carry unloaded do so because they lack the proper training, lack confidence in how to safely carry a fire arm, or are scared of it more than they respect.

I think concealed carrying an unloaded weapon is extra crazy because you have to draw a weapon that the bad guy doesn't know you have and then chamber it so its ready for action.

This is like pulling a knife out with the sheath still on it.
Carring an empty revolver but keeping the bullets in your pockets.

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Old 08-12-2013, 10:16 PM   #213
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Can you even carry in the UK ?
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Four categories:
1. Police/Intelligence
2. Military/Royal guards
3. Criminal
4. Terrorist (IRA)

Wonder which one Manta is....
Yes you can carry in the part of the UK I live in. Take your pick.
1 Prison officers.
2 Serving and x members of the police and army.
3 Civilians that are considered to be under terrorist threat.
4 Politicians and their security guards.


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I can only think that most people who carry unloaded do so because they lack the proper training, lack confidence in how to safely carry a fire arm, or are scared of it more than they respect.
That's a big assumption to make without knowing peoples background and their training or lack of training. Some might call it an arrogant attitude.
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Yes in the part of the UK I live in, not everyone.
1 Prison officers.
2 Serving and x members of the police and army.
3 Civilians that are considered to be under terrorist threat.
4 Politicians and their security guards.



That's a big assumption to make without knowing peoples background and their training or lack of training. Some might call it an arrogant attitude.
Fair enough Manta.

OK let us guess what Manta is 1 to 4.

I say number 3 because I am just grumpy today. Plus, it makes for a good story. I also think you are under threat from some of the forum members anyway, so you must be used to it.
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My first comment on this thread: if I have time to rack the slide, I potentially have time to assess the situation and hopefully find a way to back out without pulling my gun. Unfortunately, life doesn't always give you enough time. If I'm pumping gas, minding my own business, and some meth-mouth comes up with a knife or a gun, the last thing I want to be concerned with is chambering a round. My gun is carried for those last-resort, out-of-the-blue situations where it's literally life or death (mine), and if I draw, I want to draw and if necessary pull the trigger and have it go BANG! If I want to use it as a club, it'll be after the slide locks back.

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I think this is why people carry unchambered weapons. Its cool to carry a gun but a loaded gun is dangerous. They have reached the age where they can legally purchase one and its a right of passage into adult hood but in their day to day lives, 99% of the time they will not be placed in a life or death situation. An unloaded gun makes you a victim and adds another firearm to the criminal network.

I can only think that most people who carry unloaded do so because they lack the proper training, lack confidence in how to safely carry a fire arm, or are scared of it more than they respect.

I think concealed carrying an unloaded weapon is extra crazy because you have to draw a weapon that the bad guy doesn't know you have and then chamber it so its ready for action.

This is like pulling a knife out with the sheath still on it.
Carring an empty revolver but keeping the bullets in your pockets.
ummm....Barney Fife comes to mind!

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Yes you can carry in the part of the UK I live in. Take your pick.
1 Prison officers.
2 Serving and x members of the police and army.
3 Civilians that are considered to be under terrorist threat.
4 Politicians and their security guards.




That's a big assumption to make without knowing peoples background and their training or lack of training. Some might call it an arrogant attitude.
well i guess i have the same arrogant attitude, because it pretty much mirrors my opinions on carrying unchambered as well. lack of proper training, lack of confidence in themselves or their chosen pistol. either way, carrying an unchambered pistol, is IMO about the same as not carrying.
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I can think of a few reasons.
If you are going to carry unchambered you may as well not carry. The inability to properly handle your gun has nothing to do with this discussion. Accidents don't happen, they are well planned with a lot of stupidity, carelessness and arrogance. If you are going to carry for protection, then not have the gun ready....what exactly is the point? Drawing you gun is the last resort, when that time comes it better be ready. And guns do not go off unless you pull the trigger.
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I can think of a few reasons.
Forgot one.
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If you are going to carry unchambered you may as well not carry. The inability to properly handle your gun has nothing to do with this discussion. Accidents don't happen, they are well planned with a lot of stupidity, carelessness and arrogance. If you are going to carry for protection, then not have the gun ready....what exactly is the point? Drawing you gun is the last resort, when that time comes it better be ready. And guns do not go off unless you pull the trigger.
Well I might as well not carry, but I

do. I'm, IMO not arrogant, or careless

enough, in my own home, to carry with

a round in the tube. But thank you for

tolerance.

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