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Old 07-05-2013, 04:11 AM   #121
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Wise words in the world we share today.

Right, the price could and can be your freedom and quality of life.

AR10 is correct in his meaning and in that ppl are different after being involved in shootings, whether being shot, shot at, shooting AT someone, shooting and wounding someone or shooting and killing someone. I feel too many times these are small to non existent after thoughts of a lot of ppl, when in fact they should be foremost....
Yes, i believe its a good idea to have not only a 2a lawyer on stanby, but also someone qualified to provide emotional counseling as well. And not just for firearms related incidents. Believe me, any sd incident, can and will have an impact on you.
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If George Zimmerman hadn't had one in the pipe, he would be dead right now.....he only had 1 hand free..no way to rack one in.

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If George Zimmerman hadn't had one in the pipe, he would be dead right now.....he only had 1 hand free..no way to rack one in.
If and buts.. There are a lot of them, conversely had he done as the dispatcher asked him to he wouldn't be going on trail and the other party would still be alive.. Not taking a side on that case, but that example is a poor choice as the facts has not been decided and the facts are not all out there. And unless you were there the entire time you can't say definitively how long or when the fatal round was chambered.
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If and buts.. There are a lot of them, conversely had he done as the dispatcher asked him to he wouldn't be going on trail and the other party would still be alive.. Not taking a side on that case, but that example is a poor choice as the facts has not been decided and the facts are not all out there. And unless you were there the entire time you can't say definitively how long or when the fatal round was chambered.
He did as he was told, He was on his way back to his truck when he was jumped, and we DO know that Martin was on top of him , smashing his head into the concrete (eyewitness)
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If and buts.. There are a lot of them, conversely had he done as the dispatcher asked him to he wouldn't be going on trail and the other party would still be alive.. Not taking a side on that case, but that example is a poor choice as the facts has not been decided and the facts are not all out there. And unless you were there the entire time you can't say definitively how long or when the fatal round was chambered.
You need to aquaint yourself with the facts of the case before you go off half cocked like some liberal troll.
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You need to aquaint yourself with the facts of the case before you go off half cocked like some liberal troll.
I personally don't take my facts from media outlets.
You sir are half cocked, and should calm down. Re read my post, I CLEARLY said I wasn't taking a side, but if you insist, I believe the man was within his rights, and I still think this is a terrible example because no one knows when the pistol was loaded. For one to speak as though they know when the pistol was loaded is BS because, you don't.

As far as I witness accounts go, I witnesses are unreliable, this is fact. We know what we've been told by the media and documents that have been released, people lie..
12 people will decide the truth in the end, anything else is just opinion or what's perceived as fact so un ruffle your panties already.

Back in topic, this case is a poor example at best, and if you know for a FACT that he was rolling around hot on neighborhood watch in a gated community, then you should probably be headed to FL to testify..
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I personally don't take my facts from media outlets.
You sir are half cocked, and should calm down. Re read my post, I CLEARLY said I wasn't taking a side, but if you insist,.
It would be well worth your time to listen to the actual 911 tape and not what you think GZ was told...
"We don't need you to do that" is nothing more than a suggestion.

And a non LEO can't issue any "order" legal or otherwise.
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It would be well worth your time to listen to the actual 911 tape and not what you think GZ was told...
"We don't need you to do that" is nothing more than a suggestion.

And a non LEO can't issue any "order" legal or otherwise.
Given how things have played out and the make up of the jury about to judge him and determine his fate, sounds like a pretty good suggestion.

Regardless of how he got to this point, he's going to trial for killing a man, a situation that in all likelihood could have been avoided. Hope I never find myself in his shoes.
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personally, i say let's get back on track of the discussion of whether to chamber or not to chamber......


George Zimmerman's fate is now in th hands of a jury. let's open up another thread and discuss his fate.

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I think it all depends on the platform. Something like a cz27, i wouldn't feel comfortable carrying with one in the pipe. Granted i probably wont carry a cz27. A hi point, another one that i would be uneasy about.

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