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Default Whole Foods Customer survives multiple shots... Hows that Gun Free Zone workin for ya

Funny that Liberals never have any explanation as to why their "Gun Free Zone" didn't stop a CRIMINAL from having a gun!!!

http://bearingarms.com/customer-survives-being-hit-multiple-times-when-whole-foods-gun-free-zone-forcefield-fails-in-dallas/

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Old 12-02-2013, 02:16 AM   #2
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Prohibition did not work and the drug war has not worked. What makes anti gunners think they can ban guns and they wont be smuggled in? The police will become targets to steal their guns. It will just start a new business opportunity for the mobs and cartels. Citizens will not be able to protect themselves and it will be wide open for the criminals. No sense of reality. Criminal do not obey the law. That is why they are criminals.

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Way back in 1978 my first writing assignment in college was a research paper on gun control. At that point I didn't have a strong opinion one way or the other. In fact, the topic was assigned to me. I didn't choose the topic. My conclusion was pretty easy to arrive at. Gun control laws don't work and, in fact, they may actually increase violent crime rates. One of the central points in my paper was the one that JTJ just stated in post #2. Criminals do not obey gun control laws because they are, by definition CRIMINALS. If I, as a snot nosed college freshman, could figure that out in just a few days of research in the college library then why do you think it's so difficult for liberal politicians, journalists and egg headed intellectuals to grasp? Simple. They don't want to grasp the concept. Accepting the truth would require them to abandon one of the central pillars of their statist agenda. Fact is, gun control has never been about crime control. It's all about people control.

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Criminals may not observe laws but they certainly do recognize their usefulness. More as an opportunity to wreak sustained havoc than a "Should I do this" moment! About the only shooting spree ive heard of in the last 20 years that the perpetrator didnt take advantage of an unarmed population was the Navy Shipyard, he was just as suicidal as he was homicidal.

Understand, the liberal mindset values how things appear more than reality; criminals do as well, the mere appearance of overwhelming odds usually promotes success for the criminal, thats where they do their dirty work! Most criminals do not have a death wish for themselves, just for their victims. GFZ's might as well keep the Coroner on speed-dial instead of 911. Good news is customers in GFZ's all died healthier than in Non GFZ's, thats a selling point....!

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Way back in 1978 my first writing assignment in college was a research paper on gun control. At that point I didn't have a strong opinion one way or the other. In fact, the topic was assigned to me. I didn't choose the topic. My conclusion was pretty easy to arrive at. Gun control laws don't work and, in fact, they may actually increase violent crime rates. One of the central points in my paper was the one that JTJ just stated in post #2. Criminals do not obey gun control laws because they are, by definition CRIMINALS. If I, as a snot nosed college freshman, could figure that out in just a few days of research in the college library then why do you think it's so difficult for liberal politicians, journalists and egg headed intellectuals to grasp? Simple. They don't want to grasp the concept. Accepting the truth would require them to abandon one of the central pillars of their statist agenda. Fact is, gun control has never been about crime control. It's all about people control.

Sooo you got an A I assume? Lol


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Criminals may not observe laws but they certainly do recognize their usefulness. More as an opportunity to wreak sustained havoc than a "Should I do this" moment! About the only shooting spree ive heard of in the last 20 years that the perpetrator didnt take advantage of an unarmed population was the Navy Shipyard, he was just as suicidal as he was homicidal. Understand, the liberal mindset values how things appear more than reality; criminals do as well, the mere appearance of overwhelming odds usually promotes success for the criminal, thats where they do their dirty work! Most criminals do not have a death wish for themselves, just for their victims. GFZ's might as well keep the Coroner on speed-dial instead of 911. Good news is customers in GFZ's all died healthier than in Non GFZ's, thats a selling point....!

Actually ship yard was a GFZ mil personnel cannot ccw on base and the weapons that some of them were able to get to had no ammo because the ammo is so tightly controlled, so sad.

http://www.gunnews.com/navy-yard-gun-free-zone/

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/091713-671411-washington-navy-yard-gun-free-zone.htm


http://reason.com/blog/2013/09/17/navy-yard-already-suffered-the-restricti
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Sooo you got an A I assume? Lol

Yes, as a matter of fact. Of course it was a community college writing class so the prof was only concerned with the quality of the writing, not the content.
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Yea it's unfortunate but Naval bases are gfz... A few years ago my wife and I made a trip to visit some friends who are in the military and stationed at Fort Bragg. Well it wasn't till we were almost there that I realized I had my conceal carry pistol with me and there wasn't anything I could do about it (since I was 500 miles from home). I knew we'd have to go threw a security checkpoint to get on base where they lived. I was told by our friends to wrap the gun up in my bag in some underwear and that they wouldn't go through it enough to find it. We made it on base but that was a very nervous 10 minutes.

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kem1139 :
I bet that spare underwear came in handy later on as well ( LOL ) .

A professional drug dealer could tell you some nifty places to hide stuff in a car . One place is inside the spare tire compartment under the bolted-in tire or inside the bag holding the jack and wrench . Another is under the hood inside the air cleaner box . Still another is inside the fuse box compartment if there's room or up under the dash among the wiring . Hiding stuff under the floor mats is old hat . If you have a speaker and grill you can easily pull out of the door panel, you can hide a large object behind the speaker .
More elaborate tricks include concealing things inside the spare tire itself ( You need to break the bead of the tire and reinflate ) , in seat cushions ( requires some upholstery skill ) , above the gas tank ( requires loosening the straps and retightening ) and inside a dummy muffler on a fake dual-exhaust system . Building a false bottom into the center console is risky ...
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shoot the dillinger gang robbed many police stations for tommy guns and other weapons why wouldnt they think that would happen again if they prohibited weapons?

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I'm gonna call BS on this thread! Do a little reading about the CEO of Whole Foods who is a libertarian. I also shop at there often and they have no anti gun signs anywhere.

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