[kevinaustin]

Originally Posted by invicta8926

I know you are supposed to make Leos aware that you are carrying, but what if he just start s joking with you out of the blue? Even if he just ask you a general question about some random thing do you still have to tell him you are carrying?

Just be safe and tell him. Any contact with LEO should begin with you informing if your state law requires you to do so.

He might not be laughing any longer when he finds out you are carrying and did not tell him.

[partdeux]

Originally Posted by kevinaustin

Just be safe and tell him. Any contact with LEO should begin with you informing if your state law requires you to do so.

He might not be laughing any longer when he finds out you are carrying and did not tell him.

Casual conversation doesn't count

[kevinaustin]

Originally Posted by partdeux

Casual conversation doesn't count

What you think as casual conversation might be regarded by him as an investigation.

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by kevinaustin

What you think as casual conversation might be regarded by him as an investigation.

there is a huge difference between casual conversation and an investigation. trust me you would know. number one, if he's investigating you for whatever reason, he had better have read you your rights. number two if he's investigating a criminal act or whatever, and he thinks you're a potential witness he will have informed you.

[JimRau]

Originally Posted by axxe55

in some states you are required to inform the officer you are carrying if it's in the course of his official business. meaning, stopped for a moving violation and asked for your ID, then yes, you would be required to surrender such information.

if you happen to be at the local corner store and the two of you are chatting about the weather or the local high school football scores, then no, you wouldn't be required to. in that situation, you are just two people discussing a topic of interest.

Take it from one who has been on both sides of this issue what he says is good general advise. BUT if you have any doubt about how to handle this tell the LEO you are armed. If he is 'surprised' by the sight or presents of a gun things can go downhill FAST. Most of the newer officers are indoctrinated to believe any gun they are not aware of is a threat!

[dragunovsks]

Originally Posted by partdeux

because if you didn't notify them, their safety is at serious risk.

Nope, i never said that. Its just a courtesy thing, ive always done it and theyve always thanked me for being considerate enough to tell them.

Most of the time they dont even ask for my permit and leave me sitting with my gun while they run my name and info.

[kevinaustin]

Originally Posted by axxe55

there is a huge difference between casual conversation and an investigation. trust me you would know. number one, if he's investigating you for whatever reason, he had better have read you your rights. number two if he's investigating a criminal act or whatever, and he thinks you're a potential witness he will have informed you.

Police use (legally) deception all of the time.

Go ahead and play games and hope you don't run into the wrong cop one day.

EDITED:

My point is that I am going to the extreme of safety and telling them even if they ask me what time it is. We all know that 99% of police are good, reasonable people. I don't want to run into a cop like the one in Canton (who honestly does not have the right temperament to be a LEO).

Do you have to yell across the street "hey, I have a permit and I am armed", clearly no. But if they talk to me in uniform I am going to tell them.

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by kevinaustin

You must not know much about the police. They use (legally) deception all of the time.

Go ahead and play games and hope you don't run into the wrong cop one day.

axxe is the police ------
Go ahead & speak of things you know nothing about-

[Vikingdad]

Originally Posted by kevinaustin

You must not know much about the police. They use (legally) deception all of the time.

Go ahead and play games and hope you don't run into the wrong cop one day.

I can tell when a LEO is fishing for something even when I am moderately drunk. Its not that difficult. If you can't then don't talk to cops. I have many friends who are LEO's, and know several though their work, but I know when I can talk to them "off the record", and I know who I can talk to "off the record">

[JimRau]

Originally Posted by HOSSFLY

axxe is the police ------
Go ahead & speak of things you know nothing about-

So am I!!!