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Old 12-05-2010, 07:54 PM   #21
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The first thing I do is really something I don't do. I don't go digging through my glove compartment looking for my registration before the LEO gets to my window. I sit calmly with my hands on top of the steering wheel. I make no sudden moves of any kind and I especially don't thrash around like I'm looking for my gun.

The first thing I say is hello officer and then I say I have a concealed carry permit because we are required to say it in Ohio. I wait for the officer to ask me if I have a gun with me and I tell them if I do (which is almost always "yes I do"). I then tell them where it is all while keeping my hands on the steering wheel. This is the first time I've heard about the interior light deal. I'll be sure to do that from now on. It makes sense for the LEO.

I haven't been pulled over that many times since I got my CCW. When I do most LEO's instantly recognize that I've passed a stringent background check and they usually relax because they know I'm not a trouble maker. I've had LEO's compliment me on doing the procedure correctly too. And I've had my CCW take suspicion away from me because they know I've passed that background check.

So sometimes having a CCW can keep you out of trouble at least in a state where they do background checks. The rest is just common sense. They know I have a permit before they get to my window anyway. Not telling them is just asking for trouble. And I want no part of that. I'll help out any LEO that isn't acting like he wants to get famous by arresting the next Dillinger. They want to arrest everyone they meet in hopes that one of them will be a most wanted type I guess.
The interior light thing is something you can do to help out the officer; it's not required here in Ohio but it is a good way to get on his/her 'good side'. If I were to pull you over, I'd be thankful it's someone who is
a) responsible enough to get a license
b) polite enough to not make any unnecessary movements AND give specific and straightforward information as to CCW status.

Good post.
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Should I reach in my pocket for my wallet and get out my DL and CHL during that period of time before the LEO has reached my window?

Or just leave everything in my pocket until s/he asks for it?
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If my billfold is out of my pocket laying in the center tray I'll go ahead and pick it up and hold it up at the steering wheel while I take out my license. I don't get my permit out unless the ask for it. At one time I kept my registration stuck to my visor in one of those pocket deals you get. I thought it made me look like I was expecting to get stopped though so I started leaving it in the glove compartment. I leave it there until I'm asked for it and the LEO can watch me fish for it so he knows I'm not going for a gun.
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I haven't been stopped, but I do think a response like this might be good:

"Sure, officer, it is in my wallet in my pocket. Do you mind if I reach to get it out?" Or something like that.

But I wouldn't say, "Yep it's right next to my gun. I'm gonna reach for it."

And not, "Yep, and I can touch my gun as I go for the card."

And not, "Ya wanna see my gun while I'm at it?"

And lastly, "Oops, this is my gun, not my ID. Lemme try again."
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I have been stopped a couple of times here in Michigan. I calmly told the officer that I have a carry permit and told him where the firearm is located. Only once did the officer asked to see the gun and hand it to him. They were very courteous. No problems here.
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Should I reach in my pocket for my wallet and get out my DL and CHL during that period of time before the LEO has reached my window?

Or just leave everything in my pocket until s/he asks for it?
I wouldn't, it looks fishy when someone is fidgeting around while the officer approaches. I would prefer if you just stayed still until I got to your window.
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HighSpeed,

That is really good advice. I think if ever I get stopped now I will

a) put on my dome lights
b) hands on wheel
c) wait for the officer to approach
d) smile
e) tell him/her what I'm doing at each step
f) give BOTH my DL and CHL
g) discuss my choices for carry guns
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HighSpeed,

That is really good advice. I think if ever I get stopped now I will

a) put on my dome lights
b) hands on wheel
c) wait for the officer to approach
d) smile <Good evening officer, I just want to let you know I have a CCW/CHL and I'm armed/not armed, and my weapon is ________ (insert location)>
e) tell him/her what I'm doing at each step
f) give BOTH my DL and CHL
g) discuss my choices for carry guns
You're good to go!
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Except for that "g) Discuss choice of carry guns"

I think I slipped that one past you. Although, you're probably the officer we all hope would come to our window, and you wouldn't mind having that discussion.
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Except for that "g) Discuss choice of carry guns"

I think I slipped that one past you. Although, you're probably the officer we all hope would come to our window, and you wouldn't mind having that discussion.
I actually had a long conversation with one guy because he was carrying a 5 shot snubbie in 'the hood' of Cleveland... no reload with him, either. (see signature line) I told him he needed to at least get a speed loader/speed strip or switch over to some Austrian plastic

(No, he didn't get a ticket, BTW.)
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