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Old 06-20-2013, 02:41 AM   #21
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Never never never pull your gun, thinking this is one step towards getting out of a conflict. Branshing a gun is not part of conflict resolution 101 class.
brandishing a gun willy nilly no. presentation of deadly force IS one of the levels of use of force. its the second to last step of of the use of force rules with shooting being the last step.

oft times an aggressor WILL turn and run at the sight of a gun. at that point it is YOUR DUTY to report the incident to the police once you are safe.
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In Texas, the general rule is that a person can use deadly force to defend themselves is they are in REASONABLE fear of death or serious bodily injury.

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In Texas, the general rule is that a person can use deadly force to defend themselves is they are in REASONABLE fear of death or serious bodily injury.
Or fear of a death of another!! As I understand the law, its within the law to defend another life, weather it be family, friend, or stranger
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So I know what I should do if I ever have to shoot somebody. But what should I do if i find myself having to draw my weapon and that ends the confrontation? If there are witnesses especially? Like if I draw my gun, and the bad guy runs away should I still report the incident to police? Or do I just reholster and walk away?
Of course. What if the actual criminal(s) call first, and give a fake story? Your witnesses aren't going to be quick to respond anymore, if you've got any to back you up
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Or fear of a death of another!! As I understand the law, its within the law to defend another life, weather it be family, friend, or stranger

Yes, it is within the law, if "he reasonably believes the force or deadly force is immediately necessary to preserve the other's life in an emergency" (quoted from the current Texas CHL laws)
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Of course. What if the actual criminal(s) call first, and give a fake story? Your witnesses aren't going to be quick to respond anymore, if you've got any to back you up
I recently sat through one of the classes here in the area, and the general rule given there is that if you draw your weapon at all, whether you must pull the trigger or not, is to make a police report. The reason given is almost exactly your point. What if the criminal calls and gives them a "Some guy is waving a gun around" story? You're already the suspect, and the real criminal is considered the victim.

Here in Texas (and across the south U.S. if I recall correctly), there is a prepaid legal service for specifically gun and CC related issues. The idea with that is to call the police, then call them, and they'll handle it with all legal fees covered. I've never had to use them, but personally I find it helpful to know it's available if needed. There may be similar services in other states.
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So I know what I should do if I ever have to shoot somebody. But what should I do if i find myself having to draw my weapon and that ends the confrontation? If there are witnesses especially? Like if I draw my gun, and the bad guy runs away should I still report the incident to police? Or do I just reholster and walk away?
I can't tell you what is right or wrong, but I can tell you what the trainer told me / us at our CCW class. If you draw a gun on someone even to diffuse a situation, you should notify police. If you choose not to, but someone else who witnessed the incident, you could be made out to be the agressor. In tense situations it's hard to tell exactly what is going on if you are just a bystander. It's best to protect yourself by telling your story first.
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Better know the law before you draw!! Laws change drawing a weapon off your property vs on your property!! My understanding it has to be last option, immediate and life threatening situation for you to draw your firearm in public off your property!! And even than, be prepared for legal action charged against you!! No matter how right you are in reacting to a situation!! Just be prepared for lengthy court battles!! Especially if injury or death took place!! Home defense is much different, in most cases they(BG) are presumed to be a threat to your life by being on your property without being welcomed or invited!! Much easier to justify, drawing a weapon on your property opposed to off your property!! Know the law before you draw!!

Note Robbery or theft is not considered life threatening!!
Castle doctrine states to prevent certain felonies as well... so yep know the law in your state
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Either way I believe notifying police is in order 9 times out of 10..

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Around here, pointing a gun (without justification) at someone is felony assault.

If I present and the other guy runs, I'm getting my side of the story to the authorities first!

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