[CourtJester]

^^^^
I can not argue

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by CourtJester

^^^^
I can not argue

and thats the point were trying to get at. If you consciencely acknowledge a 22 as inferior why argue the fact it is inferior? Why settle for less. Its your life. Don't be foolish. Protect yourself and your family to the best of your ability, pick up a service caliber ( 9mm 38 +p 357 40 45 or 357 Sig) and the leave the 22 for the range.

[zebramochaman]

This question has been debated ad-nausium. If all you have to protect yourself is a .22, shoot to the head.
Eventually, if you hit in the eyes or between the eyes, your enemy will eventually go down. Your foe will most likely go down after time, but in the mean time he or she may take you out.
If you shoot your attacker with a larger caliber, the force trauma will be more likely to stop the assault.
Remember that in a personal protection scenario, you are not trying to kill your attacker. You are simply trying to stop the attack.
I know that I have no desire to ever kill anyone. Your objective in a self defense situation is to prevent the aggressor from killing or maiming you or your loved ones.

[g17frantz]

Originally Posted by zebramochaman

Remember that in a personal protection scenario, you are not trying to kill your attacker. You are simply trying to stop the attack.
I know that I have no desire to ever kill anyone. Your objective in a self defense situation is to prevent the aggressor from killing or maiming you or your loved ones.

Not trying to kill your attacker? I do not have the desire to kill anyone and the thought of living with that the rest of your life would be unbearable....but I'm shooting to kill, and I'll deal with the mental anguish. As long as I feel my family or my life is in grave danger, I will take their life. I dont want to get put on trial or sued b/c some punk broke into my house armed to inflict harm on my family or myself and i wounded him. Ill intent will be resolved with a .45. God will be the one that decides when my families life or my life is over, not anyone else.
Not starting anything w/ya zebra, just heavily opinionated on the subject.

[MrWray]

Just carry a rabid peep in your pocket

[zebramochaman]

Originally Posted by g17frantz

Not trying to kill your attacker? I do not have the desire to kill anyone and the thought of living with that the rest of your life would be unbearable....but I'm shooting to kill, and I'll deal with the mental anguish. As long as I feel my family or my life is in grave danger, I will take their life. I dont want to get put on trial or sued b/c some punk broke into my house armed to inflict harm on my family or myself and i wounded him. Ill intent will be resolved with a .45. God will be the one that decides when my families life or my life is over, not anyone else.
Not starting anything w/ya zebra, just heavily opinionated on the subject.

I hear what you are saying and I don't disagree with your vehemence in protecting your family. the only point I was making is that you only need to neutralize the situation. you do not need to go the extra step of ending the Perpetrator.
Shooting to the Perp's kneecap instead of center mass is not advisable. You have to make sure that you have ended the threat.
My point is that you should not go to the ultimate step of killing the Perp. if it is not necessary, even though it might feel justified to you. By doing so you have crossed the line and you will be prosecuted for going too far. How would that serve your family?

[eborden1122]

Originally Posted by MrWray

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Just carry a rabid peep in your pocket

I dont know bro, those peeps are freaking crazy. Ha!!!

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by zebramochaman

I hear what you are saying and I don't disagree with your vehemence in protecting your family. the only point I was making is that you only need to neutralize the situation. you do not need to go the extra step of ending the Perpetrator.
Shooting to the Perp's kneecap instead of center mass is not advisable. You have to make sure that you have ended the threat.
My point is that you should not go to the ultimate step of killing the Perp. if it is not necessary, even though it might feel justified to you. By doing so you have crossed the line and you will be prosecuted for going too far. How would that serve your family?

+1. two shots center mass he will probably expire, but your intent was to make him stop doing what he was doing, not to kill him. plus a jury will think better of someone who shot to stop a threat, and to defend himself, than somoene who shot to kill. Intent and mindset play a key role in determining the difference between the two.

[TexasRog]

Well, I have a grandfather who put down lots of farm animals with his .22 A 2000 lb cow will drop like a sack of sand when hit with the .22 Poachers love to shoot deer with .22s. I do agree. If you can comfortably carry something bigger and can easily operate the weapon..go for it. I was just saying, I do have a 9mm and can carry it at times. I have arthritis in my hands just like lots of seniors do. My middle is bigger than I really want..my pants never actually ride UP....on some days I have a hard time racking the slide. I want more than 5 rounds in a revolver and trying to reload could be fatal. This will be my last post for .22 as a ccw weapon. I know what works for me. I have never killed anyone..at least on this side of the pond. Dont want to save the entire neighborhood..only my family..I can actually carry and use it, have other options for carry and can actually hit what I am aiming at. You carry your .45, 10mm, 50, 65 or whatever makes you happy. Time will tell if you carry or just talk about it.

[sassyk]

the 9mm is your best bet. the .22 can wound someone but if your are being attacked the best reassurance your safe would be a 9mm.