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Old 05-17-2013, 02:05 AM   #11
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A gun that is only under glass, even if out of sight, is an invitation to a tragedy. Every box store for office equipment sells small safes. Amazon sells small safes.

Being a responsible gun owner means stowing your guns responsibly.
This is liberal bs. It's not my or anyone else fault that bad people do bad things. A house is no more than "under glass" in your scenario as well.

Nope, I won't let bad guys claim victimhood just like I won't take the responsibly for their actions. A gun under glass is no more an invite than a girl in a short skirt. Pure unadulterated bs!
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:11 AM   #12
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I used to see gun racks in trucks all the time. I hardly ever see that anymore.

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Ok boys play nice!! I guess the obvious question would which is likelier and easier to break into?? That would have to be a vehicle over a home! And even with a home invasion you have to get through a safe of some sort!! I guess nothing's bullet proof!! My old man always told me, locks and safes are to keep good guys out, bad guys make a living getting through or around just about anything!

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This story on the news the other night reminded me why I don't even leave my good sunglasses in my vehicle, especially over night. There is a surveillance video showing how quick and easy it is. Remember they don't care what they break.

http://www.ksat.com/news/car-thieves-target-mother-taking-child-to-daycare/-/478452/20168080/-/q8cpjq/-/index.html

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Note that if you must leave a gun in a car at, say, an airport lot, you can hide the gun in the spare tire compartment and pile other stuff over it in the trunk . Not perfect but likely to prevent theft .
I did that when the wife and I went on our cruise last week. We drove her 06 Explorer to the port in Jacksonville and upon arrival i unloaded it a put it in the storage compartment in the floor in the rear cargo area. I never leave anything of value anywhere in sight in my truck, you never know what somebody will knock out a window to take. I have a buddy who used to leave things in his storage tray on the dash, till somebody threw a brick thru his window for his $12 sunglasses...smh!
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If I am in the car or the car is with me at a location other than my home, a pistol is in a nanovault under the seat & cabled to a seat support. A smash&grab person probably wouldn't take the time to use the lugwrench to pry it open or be carry a large pair of bolt cutters. I usually park where the car is visible to the secretary up front and/or bring the pistol in with my backup drive.

I just need to go ahead and get that carry permit.

As far as "under glass" in a house or in a car, neither is really secure. A old roommate of mine lost his grandpa's single-action .45 in a break in to the house we rented in Memphis. The police weren't planning to come out until he mentioned that missing pistol and a missing .357.

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I did that when the wife and I went on our cruise last week. We drove her 06 Explorer to the port in Jacksonville and upon arrival i unloaded it a put it in the storage compartment in the floor in the rear cargo area. I never leave anything of value anywhere in sight in my truck, you never know what somebody will knock out a window to take. I have a buddy who used to leave things in his storage tray on the dash, till somebody threw a brick thru his window for his $12 sunglasses...smh!
I had the most polite car break-in for maybe $15-20 in quarters that was visible in the cupholder. They broke out a tiny rear window and just took the pile of change (for laundry). I laughed when I opened the armrest and saw my emergency fuel $20 was still there.
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Personally i keep my p938 on me 24/7 and i keep my naa 22mag black widow in my car 24/7. Its not visible from outside or inside the car and only i know where it is. Not saying it can't be stolen, that's why i check that it is still there every time i get in my car and i know the s/n by heart if, god forbid, i ever need to report it stolen.

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If you gotta leave the weapon, atleast take the ammo.

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The black widow serves as my car jacking deterrent. I'm a big boy at 6'5" 315 lbs so it's not easy to get to my hip gun when I'm sitting on it. That's where the permanent car gun comes into play.

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Some tips but no magic solutions :
1) If a thief finds money, he may think there could be other money elsewhere in the car and search for it . Even small change may increase risk .
2) If there is lots of stuff in the car, a thief may break in to see if any of it is valuable . If the car looks completely empty, it doesn't look very promising .
3) It is a good idea to hide electronics etc a block or so before you reach your destination . That way, thieves won't see you scramble to hide the valuables .
4) The worst risk of break-ins is in unattended parking garages .
5) At shopping centers, park under a light when possible . Avoid parking next to a van that will block the view of your vehicle . Consider parking near the center of the parking lot to make the car visible from all sides and to make a thief cover a lot of ground when escaping . Consider parking in front of a store or mall entrance so the thief won't be sure a witness isn't about to walk out and see your car . Expect more trouble at Chrismas time ; Don't go back inside after loading presents into the car and don't leave presents in the car overnight .

6) Glass break sensors are good to have on car alarms but won't trigger if the car gets opened with a Slim Jim or other tools .
7) The thief is like a guerrilla : He swims in a sea of sympathetic citizens . If the neighborhood is one in which people report crimes and testify in court, few cars will be broken into . If there is the belief that , " Snitches get stitches and wind up in ditches ", thieves will operate brazenly .

8) If you arrive at an accomodation , especially at a tourist destinatiion, a thief may be watching to see who pulls up and hops out to check out the room without locking the car . Lock the car every time you leave it unattended to move luggage or for any other reason .

9) Valet parking guys and parking lot attendants have stolen things as minor as a sweater left on a back seat . If you use valet parking, "sanitize" the car, to use a CIA term. And give the attendant the valet key only if your car has one .

10) Far be it from me to advise anyone to break the law on this open forum ...I will, however just note that saavy johns who pick up street hookers know that a nearby pimp may be signeled by the hooker so he can break into the car and find the wallet in either the trunk or glove box. The solution some men use is to drive past any girl who tries to flag them down and park about 1/4 mile down the street. The man then walks back up the street and encounters the girl while on foot ; She has no idea which car is his .
All things considered, it is best not to take a gun to a hooker date . Pepper spray is okay ...

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